# Brasil 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/301 "2014-06-13T19:48:39Z")

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> [@Asympotically\_fat](#):
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> What a goal by Van Persie!

Wow! Yeah it was.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/302 "2014-06-13T19:48:57Z")

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Clear goal of the tournament so far (after 2.5 games). Wow. You rarely see a header that kind of chips over the keeper’s head like that.

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**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/303 "2014-06-13T19:51:07Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Clear goal of the tournament so far (after 2.5 games). Wow. You rarely see a header that kind of chips over the keeper’s head like that.

'Specially not a diving header

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/304 "2014-06-13T19:52:22Z")

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> [@RobDog](#):
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> He leaps like a salmon!
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> 😃

Billy the Fish?

(possibly obscure)

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**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/305 "2014-06-13T19:55:28Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> Billy the Fish?
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> (possibly obscure)

Fulchester’s finest.

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**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/306 "2014-06-13T20:01:55Z")

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While it’s half time…

Here in the UK this match is being broadcast on the BBC. Half-time in the studio is being hosted by Gary Lineker, Rio Ferdinand, Alan Shearer and Thierry Henry.

Who do you have in the studio in your part of the world?

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/307 "2014-06-13T20:05:26Z")

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Anyone know why FIFA wanted Holland to wear blue shirts instead of orange?

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/308 "2014-06-13T20:11:28Z")

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Robben just singlehandedly made Spain look feeble. ESP 1-2 NED.

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/309 "2014-06-13T20:11:39Z")

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Holland scores! A powerful kick by Robben launches the ball past Iker Casillas. Minute 53, second half.

Spain 1 - Holland 2

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**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/310 "2014-06-13T20:12:20Z")

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Arjen! Better four yrs late than never at all!

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**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/311 "2014-06-13T20:13:19Z")

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Spain for me just don’t have any new ideas, still playing the same way they were 4 years ago.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/312 "2014-06-13T20:16:14Z")

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> [@Asympotically\_fat](#):
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> Spain for me just don’t have any new ideas, still playing the same way they were 4 years ago.

Except that without Puyol, Spain’s defense looks confused.

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/313 "2014-06-13T20:18:34Z")

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Well, their play 4 years ago was good, and I think that they are still technically good (their “tiki-taka” was flawless at times). However, the players are not getting any younger, and most of the team is the same as 4 years ago. They are not going to be able to run as fast or have reflexes as quick as 4 years ago.

Sometimes experience is a bonus… But I feel that they should have put more new blood in the squad.

Also the Spanish team, historically, have had a bad tendency: if things go wrong for them, they tend to get nervous, make mistakes and choke 😕

Disclaimer: I am Spanish.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/314 "2014-06-13T20:22:27Z")

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> [@RobDog](#):
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> While it’s half time…
> 
> Here in the UK this match is being broadcast on the BBC. Half-time in the studio is being hosted by Gary Lineker, Rio Ferdinand, Alan Shearer and Thierry Henry.
> 
> Who do you have in the studio in your part of the world?

All I know is that Alexi Lalas will be there, so I won’t ever watch it. Somehow after a vaguely competent turn on the team, that smarmy, clueless, arrogant, jackass has become the guy who is sought out for an opinion every time anything has something to do with soccer.

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**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/315 "2014-06-13T20:22:32Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Except that without Puyol, Spain’s defense looks confused.

Yep, but that jusr underlines the point one player retires and despite all their talent everywhere else in the field it makes too much of a difference because they haven’t adapted at all.

I think Spain’s problem is everyone knows what to expect and everyone’s had about 5 or 6 years to work out a way of playing against the ultimate tika-taka team. Spain on the other hand haven’t worked out any other way of playing for when they need it.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/316 "2014-06-13T20:23:00Z")

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This match is over. Well done, Netherlands.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/317 "2014-06-13T20:23:11Z")

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Wow.

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/318 "2014-06-13T20:23:19Z")

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What did I say right now? \>.\< Spain 1 - Holland 3.

Spain is choking right now 😛

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/319 "2014-06-13T20:24:32Z")

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> [@Asympotically\_fat](#):
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> Yep, but that jusr underlines the point one player retires and despite all their talent everywhere else in the field it makes too much of a difference because they haven’t adapted at all.
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> I think Spain’s problem is everyone knows what to expect and everyone’s had about 5 or 6 years to work out a way of playing against the ultimate tika-taka team. Spain on the other hand haven’t worked out any other way of playing for when they need it.

Exactly.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/320 "2014-06-13T20:26:53Z")

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Offside was the correct call just then. Sorry, Spain…

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