# Brasil 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 167

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**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3321 "2014-07-13T19:09:18Z")

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A brisk start! Probably more excitement than the entire 1990 final.

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**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3322 "2014-07-13T19:10:18Z")

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I can’t imagine being Khedira - you make it that far, then hurt yourself warming up . . .  
Both teams look strong. Messi’s being Messi.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3323 "2014-07-13T19:10:42Z")

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Both teams look like they came to play.

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**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3324 "2014-07-13T19:19:09Z")

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That looks like a concussion - the guy shouldn’t keep playing.

ETA: That was almost a goal for Argentina!

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3325 "2014-07-13T19:20:05Z")

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Yikes, that was a brutal hit that Kramer took there.

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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3326 "2014-07-13T19:21:57Z")

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Oh wow. What an absolute gift that was.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3327 "2014-07-13T19:22:36Z")

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You have to at least hit the target on a chance like that. Make the goalkeeper save the ball.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3328 "2014-07-13T19:31:42Z")

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Not sure Kramer knows where he is.

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**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3329 "2014-07-13T19:32:45Z")

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Higuain: “I did it! I did it! I actually did it! I . . .  
. . . didn’t do it.”

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**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3330 "2014-07-13T19:36:18Z")

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Kind of love the ESPN commentators accusing a player of theatrical diving by using, weirdly, figure skating terminology. As a figure skater, I should be offended, but it’s cute.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3331 "2014-07-13T19:41:26Z")

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Oh, so it’s an 8pm BST kick-off then, FFS :smack:

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**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3332 "2014-07-13T19:42:57Z")

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Argentina’s strategy quite clear here. Soak up pressure, make dangerous counterattacks. They’re looking better than Germany overall I think.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3333 "2014-07-13T19:47:18Z")

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Should have put that header in.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3334 "2014-07-13T19:48:15Z")

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Great half of football that was.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3335 "2014-07-13T19:48:33Z")

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What language are the officials speaking when they speak to the players? It seems they are speaking to players from both teams at the same time, who seem to understand them.

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**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3336 "2014-07-13T19:48:34Z")

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That Germany miss was unbelievable! It was offside, but . . . so close. It’s weird how there have been so many chances for both teams, yet it’s still 0-0 at halftime. They really are evenly matched.

ETA: Oh, and **JohnMace** : it’s actually pretty interesting - here’s a 2006 article about it [from Slate](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2006/06/does_the_world_cup_have_a_lingua_franca.html). Apparently soccer players pick up the basics of tons of languages in their travels, so generally there’s a common tongue, but all referees (at least when that was written) have to know some English. As a last resort, crude sign language is used.

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**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3337 "2014-07-13T19:50:22Z")

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> [@Octarine](#):
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> That Germany miss was unbelievable! It was offside, but . . . so close. It’s weird how there have been so many chances for both teams, yet it’s still 0-0 at halftime. They really are evenly matched.

The miss wasn’t offside, the rebound would have been.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3338 "2014-07-13T19:51:00Z")

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> [@Octarine](#):
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> That Germany miss was unbelievable! It was offside, but . . . so close. It’s weird how there have been so many chances for both teams, yet it’s still 0-0 at halftime. They really are evenly matched.

It was not offside and would have counted. The offside flag went up when the ball bounced off the post and hit Müller, who was the offside player.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3339 "2014-07-13T19:51:04Z")

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> [@Octarine](#):
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> That Germany miss was unbelievable! It was offside, but . . . so close.

The offside only mattered on the rebound off of the post, right? If the original header had gone in it would have counted as the offside German player was not involved in the play?

ETA: And my question is answered before I even ask it…

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3340 "2014-07-13T19:51:11Z")

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> [@Octarine](#):
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> That Germany miss was unbelievable! It was offside, but . . . so close.

The offside was after the header. If the header had gone in, it would have counted.

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