# Brasil 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3341 "2014-07-13T19:53:11Z")

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An entertaining game so far.

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**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3342 "2014-07-13T19:54:05Z")

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Thanks was maybe the best half in a World Cup final in the last 25 years.

Now someone needs to score a goal.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3343 "2014-07-13T19:55:20Z")

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What stupid official decided the kick-off should be at 8pm GMT? I missed the first 15 minutes. Anyway, for a 0-0 halftime score its been enjoyable so far. The Argentinians looking more dangerous apart from that last minute header.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3344 "2014-07-13T19:56:03Z")

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You cannot be offside on a corner kick.

I like Argentinas game plan and think they have a decent chance of winning this.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3345 "2014-07-13T19:57:56Z")

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A Guinness ad just about made me barf.

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**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3346 "2014-07-13T19:58:12Z")

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> [@bldysabba](#):
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> The miss wasn’t offside, the rebound would have been.

> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> It was not offside and would have counted. The offside flag went up when the ball bounced off the post and hit Müller, who was the offside player.

> [@Rysto](#):
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> The offside only mattered on the rebound off of the post, right? If the original header had gone in it would have counted as the offside German player was not involved in the play?

Sorry, my mistake. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3347 "2014-07-13T19:58:35Z")

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Kramer looked absolutely out of it, like he was drunk out of his mind. Very scary that he was allowed to run around on the pitch before that.

I’m impressed with Argentina so far but I’m scared that they won’t be able to soak up that kind of pressure without conceding a goal.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3348 "2014-07-13T19:58:42Z")

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What a great first half…Argentina without di Maria and Germany without Khedira led to some messy midfield play, but the tempo has been great.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3349 "2014-07-13T19:58:56Z")

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Germany are weak on the left. Need to watch that.  
I think it might end up like 1990, a single goal of a set piece.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3350 "2014-07-13T19:59:58Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> A Guinness ad just about made me barf.

Yeah, i just rolled my eyes and said to my wife, “I guess Guinness is getting in on the ‘Fellate the Troops’ advertising bandwagon.”

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3351 "2014-07-13T20:01:35Z")

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> [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](#):
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> What stupid official decided the kick-off should be at 8pm GMT? I missed the first 15 minutes. Anyway, for a 0-0 halftime score its been enjoyable so far. The Argentinians looking more dangerous apart from that last minute header.

Why’s 8pm a bad start time?

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3352 "2014-07-13T20:01:50Z")

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It looks to me like the Argentines reviewed the Germany/Algeria match with interest. Algeria created several chances by attacking the left and right backs to the outside, and Argentina have had a lot of success on the left side today. Meanwhile I believe that Lahm has since moved to right back, and I’m not sure if Argentina have even bothered to attack that side. Germany are going to have to get their left flank figured out if they want to win this match.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3353 "2014-07-13T20:02:47Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> You cannot be offside on a corner kick.
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> I like Argentinas game plan and think they have a decent chance of winning this.

Im pretty sure you can be. Though the factors involved are a bit more complicated. If the header had brushed past an offside German player(the ball doesnt even have to touch him) standing near the line then the ref \*\*can \*\*call offside. Its one of those grey areas.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3354 "2014-07-13T20:04:16Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Why’s 8pm a bad start time?

Because its not 9pm. :mad: That is the usual time these evening matches have kicked off. I assumed tonights match would be 9pm too.

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3355 "2014-07-13T20:04:55Z")

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The start time is one hour before all the other games so far. I missed the first ten minutes. :smack:

Agüero? Surely it’s not time for him yet.

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3356 "2014-07-13T20:07:49Z")

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I don’t know Higuaín celebrates that first-half goal without checking the flag first. Even I could see he was a mile offside.

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**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3357 "2014-07-13T20:08:14Z")

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That was close for Messi.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3358 "2014-07-13T20:08:48Z")

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> [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](#):
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> Im pretty sure you can be.

From the FIFA Laws of the Game:

> [@](#):
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> There is no offside offence if a player receives the ball directly from:
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> • a goal kick  
> • a throw-in  
> • a corner kick

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**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3359 "2014-07-13T20:17:08Z")

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Poor Higuain’s not having a great day is he?

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**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3360 "2014-07-13T20:18:21Z")

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Nope. That looked like some kind of kung-fu move from Neuer . . . Don’t think it was intentional, though.

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