# Brasil 2014 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/361 "2014-06-13T21:53:42Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > Could we please place these kind of “I hate soccer” thread-shitting posts somewhere else? Thanks. I’m sorry, are you placing this British guy who has followed his club side, Coventry City, through thick and thin for the last three decades as an “I hate soccer” person? Kindly sod off, there’s a good chap. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/362 "2014-06-13T21:55:05Z")
> [@Asympotically\_fat](#): > > (…) but I doubt there are many 30 year olds who can run like that. Have you seen Croatia’s Ivica Olic in the opening game? He’s as fast as Robben and he’s 34. Though he’s a great player, he’s of course not as good as him, but pace-wise he can hold a candle. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/363 "2014-06-13T21:56:57Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > There is. I was mainly referring to people like **amanset** who came in here to call the World Cup “such a shit sport.” I’ve been watching the World Cup since the first one I remember in 1982. I’m 40 now and have been watching football my entire life. Yet I still find myself disappointed by the big championships, mainly due to the low quality of refereeing and the idiocy of FIFA. So yes, do indeed sod off. ETA: The Spanish penalty was absolutely never a penalty and well. Two terrible penalty decisions in three games - we’ve hardly got even started. And apparently the ref managed to miss a Spaniard headbutting someone as well. THIS IS WHY I GET ANGRY. There are no reasons for it to be liek this beyond the luddite nature of the most corrupt of organisations, FIFA. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/364 "2014-06-13T22:01:00Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Anyone know why FIFA wanted Holland to wear blue shirts instead of orange? This discussion came up in the pub. My theory is contrast. I seem to remember Brazil playing England at Wembley a few years ago and Brazil playing in the blue, which the commentator explained as to being because so many in Brazil had black and white TVs. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/365 "2014-06-13T22:04:47Z")
Socceroos is an obnoxiously stupid word that get stupider each time they say it. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/366 "2014-06-13T22:05:19Z")
And if you want an example as to why I feel so strongly about bad refereeing in the World Cup, I offer you this from the last World Cup as an example: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/WML0aP4jo_g/hqdefault.jpg "Frank Lampard's Disallowed Goal v Germany 2010 + Post Match.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WML0aP4jo_g) ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/367 "2014-06-13T22:14:22Z")
It’s good to be able to hear the crowd though this time. ETA: Jeez, hard for Oz now ---
**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/368 "2014-06-13T22:16:27Z")
See, that’s the problem with football… all these low scoring matches and 0-0 draws 😃 ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/369 "2014-06-13T22:19:02Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > It’s good to be able to hear the crowd though this time. Yeah, those are the real sounds of football crowds, not an endless kwoooooooaaaaaakk. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/370 "2014-06-13T22:26:32Z")
So what goal ranks higher, Bergkamp vs Argentina in 98 or RVP today? ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/371 "2014-06-13T22:34:29Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > So what goal ranks higher, Bergkamp vs Argentina in 98 or RVP today? Bergkamp’s was in the last couple of minutes of a quarter-final to win the game, so he wins I think ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/372 "2014-06-13T23:05:29Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > I’m sorry, are you placing this British guy who has followed his club side, Coventry City, through thick and thin for the last three decades as an “I hate soccer” person? It’s your own fault you chose a loser side. How’s that exciting League One play working for you? > [@amanset](#): > > I’ve been watching the World Cup since the first one I remember in 1982. Aw, that’s so sweet. Here’s a biscuit. > [@](#): > > I’m 40 now and have been watching football my entire life. Yet I still find myself disappointed by the big championships, mainly due to the low quality of refereeing and the idiocy of FIFA. Then _don’t watch_, and please do take your “this is a shit sport”-type threadshitting posts to some other thread. Thank you. > [@](#): > > So yes, do indeed sod off. How about you demonstrate first how this is done? Send me a video, I’m sure I’d enjoy it. Maybe with music by Miley Cyrus. There’s a good chap. Ta-ta. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/373 "2014-06-13T23:06:58Z")
In other news, I’m expecting Chile to run away with this in the second half, as much as I’d enjoy seeing the Aussies make a game of it. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/374 "2014-06-13T23:29:30Z")
> [@chizzuk](#): > > As a Bayern fan, having watched him all year, this performance by Robben didn’t surprise me a bit. He was a speedy magician for the club this season. > > Spain’s defense, though, was shocking. Casillas had a pretty bad mistake in the UCL final and has followed that up with another howler, but it wasn’t all on him–Pique and Ramos were constantly caught out. I’m a Bayern fan as well, and this is been his best year ever in my opinion. So fun to watch. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/375 "2014-06-13T23:32:04Z")
Australia are keeping this competitive, fun to watch with Chile not sitting back at all. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/376 "2014-06-13T23:54:29Z")
Chile take the points, but Australia made them work for it. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/377 "2014-06-14T00:49:21Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > I think there’s a difference between people (like me and I believe Asterion) who love watching the world cup, and do watch it, but get frustrated by aspects of it, vs someone (likely American) just dropping into the thread to make fun of the most popular sport in the world. My first post was more of a threadshit then I intended. I don’t watch a lot of soccer, with the World Cup being most of it. So I realize when I’m watching it that there’s strategy and tactics I don’t understand but that the game isn’t boring. I just feel like that there are things that FIFA could do–like video review, for instance–that wouldn’t slow down the game or hurt the spirit. Double-checking disallowed goals on offside calls, for instance. And I understand that there are ways to implement review badly. I still don’t like the expanded review in baseball, although I was fine with fair/foul calls for home runs. And, as annoying as a bad umpire can be, I’d never want electronically called balls and strikes. I just feel that there has to be a fairer and more objective, less ambiguous way to officiate offside calls. The joke is that nobody understands the infield fly rule in baseball but to me the offside rule and the various exceptions make no sense while the infield fly rule is simple and obvious. I have to say, sometimes it can be fun to tweak a soccer fan’s nose. Getting the terminology almost right but using the terms from other sports like offsides and goalie. But I’m trying not to do it in this thread because I don’t want to be a jerk and there is value in using the correct terminology. Also, Australia definitely had some chances to at least get out with a tie. Some good saves by the Chilean keeper and near misses by Australia. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/378 "2014-06-14T00:56:19Z")
Actually, I’d like to correct that first sentence. I didn’t intend to do that at all, but I agree it was the wrong place to bring it up. I can still complain about bad calls, right? ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/379 "2014-06-14T03:02:53Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > So what goal ranks higher, Bergkamp vs Argentina in 98 or RVP today? Obviously [Bergkamp](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZkCFoqSBs). Honestly, what are you smoking? ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/380 "2014-06-14T03:05:42Z")
[quote=“amanset, post:366, topic:687840”] And if you want an example as to why I feel so strongly about bad refereeing in the World Cup, I offer you this from the last World Cup as an example: [/QUOTE] Nobody cares about how you feel about refereeing. And as it is, the English have had their fair share of generous calls, so this is a pathetic example. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840.md?page=20)