# Brasil 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 29

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/561 "2014-06-16T15:00:50Z")

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Michael Ballack is really good, too.

The bastard.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/562 "2014-06-16T15:02:49Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> If they wanted a token Brazilian I’m sure Juninho (the Middlesborough one) was available.

He’s doing the BBC, and he’s been fine so far. The best BBC guys have been Clarence Seedorf and Thierry Henry - they were on with Robbie Savage at the weekend and were subtly taking the piss out of him.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/563 "2014-06-16T15:05:05Z")

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> [@Ximenean](#):
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> I find it slightly embarrassing to watch, and sometimes change channel when he’s on, which can’t be what ITV had in mind.

Oh aye, it’s cringeworthy. Poor fella.

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/564 "2014-06-16T15:21:09Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> He’s doing the BBC, and he’s been fine so far. The best BBC guys have been Clarence Seedorf and Thierry Henry - they were on with Robbie Savage at the weekend and were subtly taking the piss out of him.

> <https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/478494502299385856/photo/1>

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/565 "2014-06-16T15:30:48Z")

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> [@amanset](#):
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> [x.com](https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/478494502299385856/photo/1)

Haha, excellent work by the boy Lineker.

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**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/566 "2014-06-16T16:00:07Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> Haha, excellent work by the boy Lineker.

I also enjoyed one of the replies:

@GaryLineker Nice to see Henry & Seedorf have brought their hairdresser with them.

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**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/567 "2014-06-16T16:08:26Z")

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Germany in all white… that is just plain wrong.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/568 "2014-06-16T16:33:34Z")

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Germany led from a legit but somewhat soft penalty. But now 2-0 off a corner! Terrific header.

ETA: Germany have kept Ronaldo relatively quiet.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/569 "2014-06-16T16:38:44Z")

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Wow, red card against Portugal’s Pepe!

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**Author:** ![Parenchyma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Parenchyma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Parenchyma)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/570 "2014-06-16T16:38:48Z")

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Oh, Pepe, you dumbshit.

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**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/571 "2014-06-16T16:39:00Z")

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A red for Pepe… I’m sooo enjoying this. This could become very ugly!

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/572 "2014-06-16T16:40:06Z")

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Pepe’s red mist descends once more

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/573 "2014-06-16T16:46:35Z")

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3-0. Thomas Müller. Poor defending and goal keeping from Portugal.

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**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/574 "2014-06-16T16:47:39Z")

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Germany looks very good… Portugal not so much. Wow.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/575 "2014-06-16T16:50:38Z")

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Man, Portugal is an instantly unlikable side, and I had no rooting interest here before turning on the game. Lousy body language, incriminating looks at teammates. They can’t seem to stop worrying about what the referee thinks: lots of exaggeration/simulation (more than Germany, anyway), and then every time a (legitimate) call goes against them they whine to the ref. And then of course it all boils over and Pepe headbutts a guy! Ok, he was acting a bit and playing up the foul, but you did actually whack him in the face, and if you’re playing for Portugal apparently you don’t have standing to accuse someone else of diving.

> [@polar\_bear](#):
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> Germany in all white… that is just plain wrong.

Personally, I’ve always felt that all white uniforms are really snazzy. YMMV.

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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/576 "2014-06-16T16:51:30Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Hopefully Germany drops four on Portugal and Ronaldo gets red carded. Even if germany and the us win, goal differrential is going to be key for us advancement.

We got 3/4 of the goals, and a red card. If nothing else, the German game-plan to render Ronaldo ineffective will be a good part of the USA game-plan when the US plays Portugal. Now onto the hat-trick for Mueller!

ETA: Oh, I see, you meant for Germany to lose badly and Ronaldo to get carded. Well, now the USA has to look for 2nd place to advance. And that’ll still mean a win tonight (Ghana) and next Monday with Portugal.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/577 "2014-06-16T16:57:52Z")

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Criminy.

As a US supporter, I was hoping for a GER-POR draw today. Now I have to assume that Germany advances.

Pepe being out helps our chances in the midfield next week, but it’s going to be a matter of how Portugal responds. If they have their shit together and channel all of today’s humiliation effectively against the US, we’re probably fucked.

Regardless, we still have to take three points from Ghana today.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/578 "2014-06-16T16:57:59Z")

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This has to be the ideal result for the USA… our best bet of advancing is to come in second behind Germany, meaning we want Germany to beat Portugal and Ghana as badly as possible. And the more red cards and frustrations Portugal has coming into their game vs. us, the better.

Obviously we MUST beat Ghana later on today…

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**Author:** ![Parenchyma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Parenchyma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Parenchyma)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/579 "2014-06-16T17:02:04Z")

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I’m half German, and though I’ve always admired their team, I don’t really root for them. Depending on how honorably they behave when they inevitably beat the US, they may finally become a legitimate secondary rooting interest. So far, what’s not to like?

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/580 "2014-06-16T17:10:00Z")

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> ETA: Oh, I see, you meant for Germany to lose badly. . .

No, you were right: “Germany drops four on Portugal” means that Germany scores four goals.

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