# Brasil 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 45

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/881 "2014-06-18T19:09:46Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> Yeah, it was a harsh decision. What else could the Dutch defender do in that situation?

Not have arms?

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/882 "2014-06-18T19:20:02Z")

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Goal of the tournament! Wonderful.

ETA: now it’s getting interesting.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/883 "2014-06-18T19:22:28Z")

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Wow, well done Chile. Spain showing that same Puyol-less defensive weakness.

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/884 "2014-06-18T19:24:21Z")

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Owwww

I am having flashbacks to the 2002 WC, where France, fresh from being the world champion in 1998, ended up not being able even to get past the group stage \>.\<

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/885 "2014-06-18T19:24:59Z")

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Shaping up to be another dull game in this featureless landscape of a World Cup. Heh.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/886 "2014-06-18T19:25:20Z")

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> [@JoseB](#):
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> Owwww
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> I am having flashbacks to the 2002 WC, where France, fresh from being the world champion in 1998, ended up not being able even to get past the group stage \>.\<

Well Spain has scored a goal at least.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/887 "2014-06-18T19:25:22Z")

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> [@JoseB](#):
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> Owwww
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> I am having flashbacks to the 2002 WC, where France, fresh from being the world champion in 1998, ended up not being able even to get past the group stage \>.\<

Same with Italy in 2010.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/888 "2014-06-18T19:44:36Z")

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Casillas, Casillas…

ETA: I don’t see Spain coming back now.

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**Author:** ![txtumbleweed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@txtumbleweed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/txtumbleweed)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/889 "2014-06-18T19:45:46Z")

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Wow, can’t believe how Spain is falling in this World Cup. Too much pressure?

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/890 "2014-06-18T19:46:04Z")

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Chile up 2-0.

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**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/891 "2014-06-18T19:46:32Z")

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Good grief. Could Spain end up with the worst goal difference in the whole tournament?

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/892 "2014-06-18T19:48:50Z")

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2-0 against Spain \>.\< I am afraid that we are out of this WC \>.\<

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/893 "2014-06-18T19:49:51Z")

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This is amazing.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/894 "2014-06-18T19:50:36Z")

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> [@txtumbleweed](#):
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> Wow, can’t believe how Spain is falling in this World Cup. Too much pressure?

All things must pass. Many of these Spanish players have been at the top of La Liga, the Champions League, the Euro Championships, and the World Cup for a long time. Mental and physical fatigue, maybe the dressing room spirit is broken too. It happens.

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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/895 "2014-06-18T19:52:49Z")

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At this rate Chile are going to match the Netherlands’ goal difference too! They probably should put thoughts of who they might play in the second round out of their minds for now, though

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/896 "2014-06-18T20:00:35Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> All things must pass. Many of these Spanish players have been at the top of La Liga, the Champions League, the Euro Championships, and the World Cup for a long time. Mental and physical fatigue, maybe the dressing room spirit is broken too. It happens.

Yes, seems like the end of an era, but they kept up their winning streak longer than anybody.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/897 "2014-06-18T20:07:00Z")

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Spain could still pull this off. I wouldn’t write them off quite yet.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/898 "2014-06-18T20:08:21Z")

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Absolutely unbelievable. I mean its one thing to not get out of the group stage (though that’s shocking enough), but to lose in such fashion. Heck, unless they show some spark in the 2nd half, I can see Australia having a decent chance against Spain!

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/899 "2014-06-18T20:08:41Z")

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Too late to edit: a term that was used by German commentators after Spain’s thrashing by the Dutch was “Götterdämmerung”. Seems appropiate.

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**Author:** ![txtumbleweed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@txtumbleweed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/txtumbleweed)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/900 "2014-06-18T20:08:48Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> All things must pass. Many of these Spanish players have been at the top of La Liga, the Champions League, the Euro Championships, and the World Cup for a long time. Mental and physical fatigue, maybe the dressing room spirit is broken too. It happens.

I understand older and slower, been having to face up to that more often, myself.

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