# Brasil 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/921 "2014-06-18T22:48:54Z")

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Cameroon are terrible and they’re going out. That’s all there is to say.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/922 "2014-06-18T23:06:21Z")

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Great run by Perisic, but that was too easy.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/923 "2014-06-18T23:19:45Z")

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Gah, personal bug-bear here: commentators stating that a direct free kick at about 22 yards is “a great chance”. No it fucking isn’t, it’s really rare to score from there for obvious reasons. Gah!

ETA: Cameroon getting gubbed now 3-0 , they are rotten.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/924 "2014-06-18T23:19:49Z")

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Final nail in that coffin, surely.

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**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/925 "2014-06-18T23:21:34Z")

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The commentators think that second Croatia goal was a good one. To me, the choice to shoot was selfish and the fact he actually scored was a bit lucky. Am I the only one?

I didn’t see the first half, but in the second, Cameroon really are playing poorly. 90% of the time they don’t seem bothered at all.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/926 "2014-06-18T23:27:03Z")

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> [@Bozuit](#):
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> The commentators think that second Croatia goal was a good one. To me, the choice to shoot was selfish and the fact he actually scored was a bit lucky. Am I the only one?

The Cameroon keeper screwed up by leaning early, which gave room for the shot. Perišić had a great run with a terrific finish.

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> I didn’t see the first half, but in the second, Cameroon really are playing poorly. 90% of the time they don’t seem bothered at all.

The first goal was definitely against the run of play. But Cameroon have been deflated since the red card.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/927 "2014-06-18T23:27:41Z")

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> [@Bozuit](#):
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> The commentators think that second Croatia goal was a good one. To me, the choice to shoot was selfish and the fact he actually scored was a bit lucky. Am I the only one?

It was a strange goal. A misplaced goal kick, a lackluster defender just escorting Perisic and a keeper turning to the wrong side. Cameroon’s defense is a mess.

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**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/928 "2014-06-18T23:38:21Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> The Cameroon keeper screwed up by leaning early, which gave room for the shot. Perišić had a great run with a terrific finish.

The run was good. The finish worked because the keeper screwed up, but when there are two other players almost guaranteed to score, it seems a bit of a gamble that the keeper won’t be effective - he hadn’t let four in at that point. In slow motion, you can see the keeper going down too soon, but if Perisic had time to see that and change his plan, I’ll be impressed. It was pretty quick, and, to my untrained eyes, it looked like he didn’t have time to do anything he hadn’t planned before the keeper started going down.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/929 "2014-06-18T23:45:41Z")

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Could be 6-0 by now.

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**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/930 "2014-06-18T23:46:04Z")

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For a team winning 4-0, Croatia really aren’t that impressive, actually. They could be winning 6-0 with some of those chances and that awful defending.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/931 "2014-06-18T23:48:04Z")

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No, Croatia are good, but not that impressive, but Cameroon’s performance is the worst I’ve seen so far.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/932 "2014-06-18T23:49:30Z")

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Ok, I’m making an honest effort at getting into this. That said, I have a question…

Why is Cameroon only playing with 10 men, and is that why they’re getting their asses handed to them so badly?

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**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/933 "2014-06-18T23:51:09Z")

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When a player commits an especially egregious or dangerous foul, he’s shown a red card and is forced to leave the field. His team plays a man down.

The same thing happens if a player is given two yellows in the same match (where a yellow is given for a dangerous or reckless challenge, but not up to the standards of a red card).

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/934 "2014-06-18T23:51:38Z")

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> [@Bozuit](#):
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> The run was good. The finish worked because the keeper screwed up, but when there are two other players almost guaranteed to score, it seems a bit of a gamble that the keeper won’t be effective - he hadn’t let four in at that point. In slow motion, you can see the keeper going down too soon, but if Perisic had time to see that and change his plan, I’ll be impressed. It was pretty quick, and, to my untrained eyes, it looked like he didn’t have time to do anything he hadn’t planned before the keeper started going down.

Hard to say really. In the end, it’s the result that matters. Perišić showed speed and a quality finish. That’s it.

ETA seeing the replay, there was a lot of traffic in the box. Not much room for a cross.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/935 "2014-06-18T23:51:55Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> Ok, I’m making an honest effort at getting into this. That said, I have a question…
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> Why is Cameroon only playing with 10 men, and is that why they’re getting their asses handed to them so badly?

Because one of their players committed one of the stupidest fouls I’ve ever seen in the first half and got a red card, which means instant suspension. And having one player more for such a long time usually makes a difference, but Cameroon would have lost anyway tonight.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/936 "2014-06-18T23:57:10Z")

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Cameroon were just really poor overall, in so many ways. Assou-Ekotto could have had a red for headbutting his own teammate. Horrible.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/937 "2014-06-19T00:31:11Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Cameroon were just really poor overall, in so many ways. Assou-Ekotto could have had a red for headbutting his own teammate. Horrible.

I was watching this one at a bar with no volume on. Did they explain what happened? It looked ridiculous and pathetic. Did one call the other one’s sister a whore or something? 😃

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/938 "2014-06-19T00:47:08Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> Oh yes, who would know that better than us Germans (think of 2008 and 2010: those were bitter defeats).

Ugh, 2008. Torres had one bright, shining moment…bitter indeed.

Meanwhile: adios, Espana!

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/939 "2014-06-19T01:15:03Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> I was watching this one at a bar with no volume on. Did they explain what happened? It looked ridiculous and pathetic. Did one call the other one’s sister a whore or something? 😃

Benoît (“balls…hehe”) Pierre David Assou-Ekotto ran down field to yell at his teammate, I think the one who had just botched a scoring opportunity. The latter responded with something that was not pleasing to Benoît, who then responded with the head-butt, out of sight of the refs but not the cameras. Instant red card if any official had seen it.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/940 "2014-06-19T01:15:52Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Ugh, 2008. Torres had one bright, shining moment…bitter indeed.
> 
> Meanwhile: adios, Espana!

And in 2010, after thrashing England and Argentina in a row with four goals in the final round, we lost to them 0-2 with a cowardice, even submissive attitude. I’m still angry when I think about it now. Same thing happened in 2012 against Italy. Hopefully Löw will stick to a more courageous tactic these times.

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