# Brasil 2014 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1101 "2014-06-21T09:23:00Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > European team struggle outside Europe\*.Is that a surprise? I mean a slightly warm day and their game goes to shit. Never won in the Americas or the Far East. According form I would say. > RSA was essentially European conditions in the southern winter of 2010. This is a claim that is often made (even after Spain winning in SA), but if you look at the semi finalists (or top 4) in the last few non-european worldcups\*: 1986: Belgium, France, Germany and Argentina 1994: Italy, Sweden, Bulgaria and Brazil 2002: Turkey, Germany, South Korea (we all remember that) and Brazil 2010: Spain, Netherlands, Germany and Uruguay So with the exception of 2002, 3 European teams and one South American team. \*78 worked with two group stages where one of the second groups was all European and the other almost all South American; so automatically one of each in the final and one of each in the third place playoff. ---
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1102 "2014-06-21T11:38:19Z")
I think most of these “_x_ happens in _y_% of World Cups” things are questionable because the sample size is too small. I saw one once about how two thirds of finals have been won by the team wearing darker shorts, or darker socks if the shorts were the same… ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1103 "2014-06-21T16:08:16Z")
> [@markdash](#): > > When a player commits an especially egregious or dangerous foul, he’s shown a red card and is forced to leave the field. His team plays a man down. > > The same thing happens if a player is given two yellows in the same match (where a yellow is given for a dangerous or reckless challenge, but not up to the standards of a red card). Follow-up question – they were just showing the lineups for the noon match, and I see an Iranian player has a yellow card next to his name. Does that mean he’s already received one in a previous match? And if so, does that carry over into this one? I know you said “two yellows in the same match”, but I can’t seem much of a reason to show that if they don’t carry over. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1104 "2014-06-21T16:14:28Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > Follow-up question – they were just showing the lineups for the noon match, and I see an Iranian player has a yellow card next to his name. Does that mean he’s already received one in a previous match? And if so, does that carry over into this one? I know you said “two yellows in the same match”, but I can’t seem much of a reason to show that if they don’t carry over. Two yellows in group play will result in suspension for the following game. It’s not the same as a red, as the player isn’t sent off, and they can be subbed for in the following game. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1105 "2014-06-21T17:32:45Z")
Higuaín and Kun Agüero have been absolute shit. We could have used Tevez today. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1106 "2014-06-21T17:36:12Z")
> [@Erdosain](#): > > Higuaín and Kun Agüero have been absolute shit. We could have used Tevez today. And Sabella pulls them off. If only he had done this at half time instead of 76’. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1107 "2014-06-21T17:48:02Z")
I’m kinda pulling for Iran here. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1108 "2014-06-21T17:49:07Z")
For the most part, Iran hasn’t been expending too much energy in attack, but on a couple of occasions they’ve put some nice shots on goal, and Argentina have Romero to thank for some very nice saves, especially the one off Dejagah’s header. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1109 "2014-06-21T17:49:56Z")
Now THAT’S a Messi goal. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1110 "2014-06-21T17:49:57Z")
Dagger from Messi! ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1111 "2014-06-21T17:50:53Z")
What a strike. The Univision commentators are saying, quite accurately i think, that Argentina don’t deserve this result. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1112 "2014-06-21T17:53:18Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > What a strike. > > The Univision commentators are saying, quite accurately i think, that Argentina don’t deserve this result. I agree with them (and you). Argentina’s lucky that defender wasn’t a little more to Messi’s left. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1113 "2014-06-21T17:55:48Z")
Messi showed why he is the world’s best player but Argentina didn’t look like a team which could go all the way. ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1114 "2014-06-21T17:56:28Z")
I also agree. This Argentina doesn’t look very scary. Right now, teams to beat are France, Germany, Brazil. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1115 "2014-06-21T17:58:43Z")
That was a pretty terrible performance, saved at the last possible minute. Needless to say, if Argentina don’t find some answers (and possibly bench Kun Agüero), the will get slaughtered in the quarterfinals (IIRC, they have an exceptionally easy path to the quarterfinals). ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1116 "2014-06-21T19:09:04Z")
It’s it weird that, despite the fact that it would seriously complicate the US’s situation, I’m kind of rooting for Ghana? ---
**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1117 "2014-06-21T19:18:58Z")
> [@fachverwirrt](#): > > It’s it weird that, despite the fact that it would seriously complicate the US’s situation, I’m kind of rooting for Ghana? Yes, you sound quite verwirrt about this. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1118 "2014-06-21T19:24:35Z")
Ghana are tough to play so far, as expected. I’m sitting here in a basement with some friends, biting my nails. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1119 "2014-06-21T19:27:55Z")
> [@fachverwirrt](#): > > It’s it weird that, despite the fact that it would seriously complicate the US’s situation, I’m kind of rooting for Ghana? Ganz verwirrt. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1120 "2014-06-21T19:31:23Z")
> [@Uniqueorn](#): > > Yes, you sound quite verwirrt about this. 😛 > [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Ganz verwirrt. You guys are just trying to confuse me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840.md?page=55) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840.md?page=57)