# Brasil 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 87

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1721 "2014-06-26T17:07:46Z")

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> [@Octarine](#):
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> Especially in those first few minutes when the US hadn’t woken up and Germany was dominating.

Well you would expect the German team to be awake from the get go, after all Coffee is for Klose s , team

OK I’ll go back to the movie quote thread.

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**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1722 "2014-06-26T17:13:37Z")

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Germany put in the rebound after a strong save by Howard. Long time coming, but US can’t be shaken. Just keep playing their game.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1723 "2014-06-26T17:14:14Z")

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Great save by Howard, but he couldn’t get back in position quickly enough for the second strike.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1724 "2014-06-26T17:15:18Z")

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It was bound to happen…USA looks outmatched

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**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1725 "2014-06-26T17:15:36Z")

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Wow, if Ghana score one more, they’re through…

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**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1726 "2014-06-26T17:16:09Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Nope.
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> If Germany beats the US 1-0, and Ghana comes back to beat Portugal 2-1, the two teams (US and Ghana) will be equal on points and equal on goal difference, but Ghana will advance on goals scored.

So goals scored comes before head-to-head result?

The reason I thought 2-1 wouldn’t be enough for Ghana was that I read that the US would go through on head-to-head if they lost 1-0 and Ghana won 1-0. I extrapolated to 2-1 but forgot that would mean Ghana would have more goals scored.

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**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1727 "2014-06-26T17:16:25Z")

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That Ghana goal is bad news for the US. One more goal from them, and we’re out.

_bites nails_

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1728 "2014-06-26T17:16:27Z")

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Germany have looked in control of this throughout. 1-0 flatters USA at the moment.

Great strike for that first goal. Shame For Tim Howard as he hasn’t put a foot wrong really.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1729 "2014-06-26T17:16:45Z")

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> [@Lantern](#):
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> So goals scored comes before head-to-head result?

Yep.

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**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1730 "2014-06-26T17:17:18Z")

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Wow the situation has turned so quickly; must be agony for US fans.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1731 "2014-06-26T17:20:50Z")

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USA need to be careful here, they’re going to lose someone to a red here if they don’t reign in the wild challenges.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1732 "2014-06-26T17:21:01Z")

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Do you get the feeling that Germany is going all out?

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1733 "2014-06-26T17:26:30Z")

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Germany definitely doesn’t look content to rest on their laurels. To be fair, given the current score lines the US would be foolish not to look for a tying goal, so it’s in Germany’s best interest to keep playing the way that has them in control of this game.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1734 "2014-06-26T17:33:00Z")

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That head clash looked painful.

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**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1735 "2014-06-26T17:33:21Z")

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Haha, ESPN announcer on Dempsey going down and grabbing his face: “Any kind of touch on a broken nose is the worst.”

Replay shows no contact to the face at all: “Any kind of touch at all.”

US players collide and get shaken up. Aw, Jones.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1736 "2014-06-26T17:35:08Z")

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A second German goal would be likely meaningless as far as the US advancing, yes? Losing 1-0 or 2-0, and they’re out if Ghana wins. Losing 2-1 or drawing 1-1 and they’re in if Ghana wins 2-1.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1737 "2014-06-26T17:35:42Z")

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Is it true the U.S. does not have a shot on goal?

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**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1738 "2014-06-26T17:38:47Z")

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Portugal scores!

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1739 "2014-06-26T17:38:54Z")

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> [@borschevsky](#):
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> A second German goal would be likely meaningless as far as the US advancing, yes? Losing 1-0 or 2-0, and they’re out if Ghana wins. Losing 2-1 or drawing 1-1 and they’re in if Ghana wins 2-1.

That is correct.

Edit: Actually, if the US lose 2-1, and Ghana wins 2-1, Ghana advances.

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**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1740 "2014-06-26T17:39:00Z")

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Portugal scores!! US is almost certainly through now.

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