# Brasil 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1741 "2014-06-26T17:40:11Z")

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> [@nani](#):
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> Portugal scores!! US is almost certainly through now.

Portugal needs some kind of combination of 2 more goals in their favour?

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**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1742 "2014-06-26T17:40:19Z")

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Yeah I don’t think Ghana can come back from that. A poor piece of goalkeeping; he really should have just held the ball.

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1743 "2014-06-26T17:41:28Z")

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Worst World Cup hairstyle? USA’s Beckerman or Argentina’s Palacios?

A guy that looked just like Beckerman tried to sell me some shrooms outside a Phish concert once.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1744 "2014-06-26T17:41:31Z")

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So if Portugal wins then it doesn’t (really) matter in this game right?

US loses 1-0 or even 2-0 and its through?

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1745 "2014-06-26T17:42:13Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> That is correct.
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> Edit: Actually, if the US lose 2-1, and Ghana wins 2-1, Ghana advances.

This table is quite useful

> <https://twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/482206496915460097/photo/1>

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1746 "2014-06-26T17:44:14Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> That is correct.
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> Edit: Actually, if the US lose 2-1, and Ghana wins 2-1, Ghana advances.

It’s moot now, but I think the US would still go through here. Goal difference and goals scored would be equal, so US would be through on head-to-head.

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**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1747 "2014-06-26T17:44:17Z")

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If Germany wins 2-0 I think Portugal would need 4-1 to go through. Just barely possible I suppose.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1748 "2014-06-26T17:45:17Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> So if Portugal wins then it doesn’t (really) matter in this game right?
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> US loses 1-0 or even 2-0 and its through?

Correct, unless the Portuguese can win 4-1 or 5-1. If the US loses by 1, Portugal need a 4-goal win, and if the US loses by 2, Portugal need a 3-goal win.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1749 "2014-06-26T17:45:32Z")

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There’s a surprising lack of shit given from both Ghana and Portugal at the moment, considering that both teams need to score. Have they both given up on the whole thing?

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1750 "2014-06-26T17:46:49Z")

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> [@borschevsky](#):
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> It’s moot now, but I think the US would still go through here. Goal difference and goals scored would be equal, so US would be through on head-to-head.

Yes, that’s right. I miscalculated on goals scored.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1751 "2014-06-26T17:48:57Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> There’s a surprising lack of shit given from both Ghana and Portugal at the moment, considering that both teams need to score. Have they both given up on the whole thing?

Well, Ghana needs to score 2 more, or Portugal needs to score 3 more to advance. I think they’re probably just realistic about the chance of this happening with about two minutes of regulation time left.

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**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1752 "2014-06-26T17:52:02Z")

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Best attack of the match for the USA there.

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**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1753 "2014-06-26T17:52:20Z")

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These World Cup group double-games are a pretty unique form of sporting excitement aren’t they? So many permutations to keep in mind and the situation can turn so quickly when goals are scored in both game as happened here in the second half.

This group was the most interestingly poised with all four teams having a chance to go through. It would have been even more exciting if Portugal hadn’t lost by so much to Germany.

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**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1754 "2014-06-26T17:54:16Z")

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US passes!! I didn’t expect this when I first saw the group, but wow. Great job for CONCACAF!

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**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1755 "2014-06-26T17:54:56Z")

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Aaaaand both games are over. We’re through!

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1756 "2014-06-26T17:55:13Z")

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Fair enough that Germany and USA go through. Germany looked ominously comfortable there. They restricted the USA to very few chances (apart from the couple right at the end). Brazil and Argentina won’t be too happy to them standing in their way.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1757 "2014-06-26T17:55:28Z")

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USA gets through.

WOW did we get lucky. We just couldn’t hold a candle to GER and we were saved by Ronaldo.

So Ronaldo kills us, then saves us.

What an asshole

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1758 "2014-06-26T17:55:30Z")

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Well, the US made it through, and they definitely deserve to be in the next round.

Still, Germany were pretty dominant today, and if not for Howard might have put two or three more goals past the Americans.

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**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1759 "2014-06-26T17:56:42Z")

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All done. USA advances, but not how they would have liked. Looks like Belgium is up next.

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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1760 "2014-06-26T17:58:45Z")

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USA played Germany about as well as any team will in this WC. The Germans had the ball for almost 2.5 minutes without an American touching it in the opening half. And those USA chances in extra time were amazing.

Now onto Group H. Go Rossiya! It’ll be on at midnight here, but folks will be watching. A win pits them against Germany.

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