# Brasil 2014 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 96
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1901 "2014-06-28T14:24:02Z")
A brazilian newspaper is tempting the futbol gods, not a wise thing to do… [![](https://estaticos03.marca.com/imagenes/2014/06/28/futbol/mundial/brasil.mundial/1403962019_1.jpg) ](https://estaticos03.marca.com/imagenes/2014/06/28/futbol/mundial/brasil.mundial/1403962019_1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1902 "2014-06-28T14:29:34Z")
I don’t understand the “losing a game and still winning is unAmerican” thing. The Seahawks had a 7-9 season in 2010 and made it to the playoffs. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1903 "2014-06-28T14:37:28Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > **Oooft, there’s some right daft quotes in that article. I suppose they’ve been cherry-picked though.** The main thing is that the huge US travelling support looked like they were having an absolutely great (if stressful) time. > > There’s nothing quite like needing another result to go a certain way in group play. In the last group game in Group A of Euro 96 Scotland needed to beat Switzerland, while simultaneously we needed England to beat Holland by a decent margin. Scotland went 1-0 up, so we needed England to win by four clear goals. England got it to 4-0 (and never have they been cheered on so enthusiastically by the whole of Scotland) and the next few minutes were extremely tense and exciting, almost unbearably so. Sadly the Dutch managed a late goal through the England keeper’s legs, and we were out. Again. Never underestimate the BBC’s ability to report stories showing the BBC’s own snidey arsed attitude to American culture. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1904 "2014-06-28T14:50:21Z")
> [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](#): > > Never underestimate the BBC’s ability to report stories showing the BBC’s own snidey arsed attitude to American culture. Thanks for this guidance, oh wise one. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1905 "2014-06-28T15:13:31Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Thanks for this guidance, oh wise one. Your welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1906 "2014-06-28T15:15:54Z")
Well, the problem with the BBC article is that it mostly quotes comedians (they’re trying to be funny) and established US sports reporters. Guess what, the interest of established sports reporters and US sports talk radio in branching out into a FIFTH or SIXTH sport to report on is virtually nil. They tolerate the World Cup every four years knowing they can safely ignore it for four more years in a couple weeks. I think it’s the younger and slightly better travelled generations where the interest in soccer is growing. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1907 "2014-06-28T15:51:02Z")
> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > I don’t understand the “losing a game and still winning is unAmerican” thing. > > The Seahawks had a 7-9 season in 2010 and made it to the playoffs. :smack: Not only that, but in two of the four major sports leagues in North America—the NBA and the NHL— 16 out of the 30 teams advance to the playoffs, which makes it likely that, in any given year, there could be a team with a losing record that makes it through. During the just-completed NBA season, the Atlanta Hawks made the playoffs with a record of 38-44. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1908 "2014-06-28T16:06:56Z")
Come on, Chile! ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1909 "2014-06-28T16:19:38Z")
Chilean out of the next match. Does this mean they’re not doing the ‘wipe previous warnings after the group stage’? Or is that after this game? ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1910 "2014-06-28T16:19:56Z")
Pffft. Brazil takes control. Boo. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1911 "2014-06-28T16:21:56Z")
Fucking Sideshow Bob scored. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1912 "2014-06-28T16:25:25Z")
Bora Brasil! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1913 "2014-06-28T16:25:26Z")
I thought so, but it was an own goal. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1914 "2014-06-28T16:27:17Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Chilean out of the next match. Does this mean they’re not doing the ‘wipe previous warnings after the group stage’? Or is that after this game? I thought if they collected two that became an automatic red and out of field. Or is that only if they collect 2 yellow in the same game? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1915 "2014-06-28T16:28:46Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > I thought so, but it was an own goal. That was my first impression, too, but David Luiz is currently credited with the goal on the FIFA World Cup website. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1916 "2014-06-28T16:29:54Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > I thought if they collected two that became an automatic red and out of field. Or is that only if they collect 2 yellow in the same game? Two in the same game. Two cards in separate games requires them to sit out the next game (i.e., the one after they get the second yellow). ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1917 "2014-06-28T16:29:57Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > I thought if they collected two that became an automatic red and out of field. Or is that only if they collect 2 yellow in the same game? That’s in the same game. In two different games you are suspended for the next. Normal national leagues have the same idea. I believe in England you get a suspension after five. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1918 "2014-06-28T16:31:29Z")
This is not the cleanest of matches. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1919 "2014-06-28T16:32:59Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > I’ve never heard anyone say that soccer is too complicated. Maybe they’re talking not about the game itself but about the 4-team WC groups, and the fact that we lost but still made it through? I suppose a discussion about all the different tie-breaking possibilities etc. could be a bit dizzying. No, they were definitely talking about the game itself. One guy was complaining about the distinction between direct and indirect free kicks, but as far as I can remember nobody has been awarded an IDF in this world cup so it seems like a pointless objection. The others were most about the offside rule or why “only three other guys can come in” (i.e., limited substitutions). > [@amanset](#): > > Chilean out of the next match. Does this mean they’re not doing the ‘wipe previous warnings after the group stage’? Or is that after this game? I think the yellows only get wiped out before the quarter finals. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1920 "2014-06-28T16:33:11Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > That was my first impression, too, but David Luiz is currently credited with the goal on the FIFA World Cup website. One of the camera angles show it was David Luiz’s knee, responding from a head kick from another player. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840.md?page=95) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840.md?page=97)