# Brasil 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 97

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1921 "2014-06-28T16:33:30Z")

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> [@amanset](#):
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> Chilean out of the next match. Does this mean they’re not doing the ‘wipe previous warnings after the group stage’? Or is that after this game?

They are wiped before the semi-finals, to prevent players from missing the final for two yellows.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1922 "2014-06-28T16:34:07Z")

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> [@amanset](#):
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> Chilean out of the next match. Does this mean they’re not doing the ‘wipe previous warnings after the group stage’? Or is that after this game?

The yellow cards are wiped after the quarter-finals, so you have to play the first five games of the tournament (group round; round of 16; quarter-final) without picking up two yellows.

The reason for this change was to ensure that no-one could miss the final by getting a yellow in the semi-final, as happened to Michael Ballack in 2002.

Edit: Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool Chile!

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1923 "2014-06-28T16:34:15Z")

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> [@amanset](#):
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> This is not the cleanest of matches.

That’s for sure. Still not seeing this as going Chile’s way. We shall see.

ETA but there’s the equalizer! Wow! Defensive screwup punished!

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1924 "2014-06-28T16:35:42Z")

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> [@amanset](#):
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> Chilean out of the next match. Does this mean they’re not doing the ‘wipe previous warnings after the group stage’? Or is that after this game?

I thought that’s how they did it (wipe all yellows after the group stage), but apparently not.

ETA: And four people respond while I’m writing this.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1925 "2014-06-28T16:35:58Z")

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C’mon Chile - do it for the miners!

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1926 "2014-06-28T16:38:29Z")

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Goal Chile. Crappy goals at both ends.

I didn’t know Neymar was one of those dramatic guys.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1927 "2014-06-28T16:39:34Z")

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Howard Webb needs to start awarding cards more often.

Brazils defence? not WC winning standard.

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1928 "2014-06-28T16:40:09Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Goal Chile. Crappy goals at both ends.
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> I didn’t know Neymar was one of those dramatic guys.

Rivaldo gives all the incoming players lessons.

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1929 "2014-06-28T16:41:42Z")

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Cheers to everyone for the booking explanations.

Chile’s defence is almost comically bad.

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1930 "2014-06-28T16:47:49Z")

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> [@amanset](#):
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> Cheers to everyone for the booking explanations.
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> Chile’s defence is almost comically bad.

And I should add: Brazil’s isn’t much better.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1931 "2014-06-28T16:47:58Z")

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> [@amanset](#):
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> Chile’s defence is almost comically bad.

They looked tremendously better against Spain. Brazil’s offense is coming alive.

Wow, another Brazil mistake. This one narrowly escaped becoming another Chilean goal.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1932 "2014-06-28T16:53:25Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Howard Webb needs to start awarding cards more often.
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> Brazils defence? not WC winning standard.

I prefer Webb’s more lax attitude to yellow cards. A few of the last world cups have been almost ruined by card happy referees.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1933 "2014-06-28T16:59:49Z")

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> [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](#):
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> I prefer Webb’s more lax attitude to yellow cards. A few of the last world cups have been almost ruined by card happy referees.

The problem is that if you don’t give yellow cards when they’re warranted, you encourage players to believe that they can continue to get away with fouls, which slows the game down and ruins it at least as much as the occasional yellow card.

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**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1934 "2014-06-28T17:00:08Z")

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Wow, Neymar is scary. i don’t remember him looking this fast in the group stage

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1935 "2014-06-28T17:04:44Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> No, they were definitely talking about the game itself. One guy was complaining about the distinction between direct and indirect free kicks, but as far as I can remember nobody has been awarded an IDF in this World Cup

There have been dozens of ifks. Every offside call is restarted with an ifk.

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1936 "2014-06-28T17:19:52Z")

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So, was it a hand ball? He definitely used his very upper arm to bring down the ball, but I admit I’m fuzzy on the rule book definition.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1937 "2014-06-28T17:20:18Z")

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> [@Isosleepy](#):
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> Wow, Neymar is scary. i don’t remember him looking this fast in the group stage

In fairness, outside of Sanchez it’s not like Chile is known for speed.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1938 "2014-06-28T17:21:19Z")

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> [@Erdosain](#):
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> So, was it a hand ball? He definitely used his very upper arm to bring down the ball, but I admit I’m fuzzy on the rule book definition.

Yes, it’s a hand ball.

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**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1939 "2014-06-28T17:21:31Z")

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Yea, I don’t see the use of hand. Upper shoulder/chest yes. And another one gets carded and sits out next match, this time for Brazil.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/1940 "2014-06-28T17:24:33Z")

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Clearly a handball. Hit his upper arm.

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