# Braveheart on the SciFi channel? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 25, 2002, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565 "2002-11-25T00:59:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/1 "2002-11-25T00:59:58Z")
Tonight the SciFi channel aired BraveHeart. While I enjoyed BraveHeart, I just don’t see how it fits into the Science Fiction channel. Anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/2 "2002-11-25T01:07:42Z")
It fills 3 hours. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/3 "2002-11-25T01:13:17Z")
Think of it as an example of the “Alternate History” sub-genre. It certainly only bore the most slight relation to what really happened. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/4 "2002-11-25T01:15:37Z")
Braveheart was from Mars. You didn’t know? ---
**Author:** ![Fornit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@Fornit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fornit)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/5 "2002-11-25T01:20:57Z")
Aie, my name’s Conner McCleod of the clan McCleod, from the planet Zeist ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/6 "2002-11-25T01:28:22Z")
Hey! You! Get off of McCleod! (damn I’m old…) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/7 "2002-11-25T05:11:49Z")
Well, he does see his wife’s ghost… ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/8 "2002-11-25T13:57:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DrFidelius \* > \*\*Hey! You! Get off of McCleod! > > (damn I’m old…) \*\* LOL, nice. ---
**Author:** ![Siemsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@Siemsi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siemsi)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/9 "2002-11-25T13:58:20Z")
I was wondering the same thing. WTF?!?! ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/10 "2002-11-25T15:37:09Z")
As **DrFidelius** pointed out, the movie is closer to fantasy than historical drama. So I’d say it qualifies for SciFi. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bomzaway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@Bomzaway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bomzaway)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/11 "2002-11-25T16:37:55Z")
> [@](#): > > Think of it as an example of the “Alternate History” sub-genre. > > It certainly only bore the most slight relation to what really happened. Wait! Are you saying that Wallace didn’t really yell out “FREEDOM!” as his guts were being ripped out??!?!?! I am Joe’s crestfallen visage. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/12 "2002-11-25T16:49:11Z")
> [@](#): > > Wait! Are you saying that Wallace didn’t really yell out “FREEDOM!” as his guts were being ripped out??!?!?! “FREEDOM is a Yang Worship Word.” Maybe _that’s_ the connection. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/13 "2002-11-25T17:11:48Z")
Well, it more like “OUCH!” But if you listened just right it sounded like “Freeeeeeeeedoom!” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/14 "2002-11-25T17:31:08Z")
Yeah, I saw that too and went “Huh?” ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/15 "2002-11-25T17:33:26Z")
I’ll go with the speculative fiction. What if Wallace was inspired by an actor (MAD MEL) from the future who decided to change his motivations and much of teh events in his life. Spooky ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/16 "2002-11-25T17:53:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Khadaji \* > \*\*Tonight the SciFi channel aired BraveHeart. While I enjoyed BraveHeart, I just don’t see how it fits into the Science Fiction channel. Anyone? \*\* Why not? They played Cape Fear a few years back. Marc ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/17 "2002-11-25T20:01:25Z")
Remember, the Sci-Fi channel has given up on focusing on a small demographic. That is why they cancelled their best Sci-Fi show, Farscape. It does not surprise me at all if they start airing more and more mainstream, non Sci-Fi movies. ---
**Author:** ![Katisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bcef8e/32.png) [@Katisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katisha)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/18 "2002-11-25T20:03:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DrFidelius \* > \*\*Think of it as an example of the “Alternate History” sub-genre. > > It certainly only bore the most slight relation to what really happened. \*\* Of course, knowing a little of the real history (or at least having a passing familiarity with Marlowe’s _Edward II_) spices up your MST3K-style taunting of the movie a great deal… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/19 "2002-11-25T20:26:15Z")
It’s not a channel that shows on SF; it’s a channel that caters to the SF demographic. There’s a HUGE overlap between the SfCA crowd and the SF crowd. They’re just playing to their audience. ---
**Author:** ![TheeGrumpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheeGrumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheeGrumpy)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565/20 "2002-11-25T22:44:30Z")
Looks like I [posted too soon](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=145474). I predicted SciFi would rely on z-grade cheapies because AMC is now resorting to b-grade SF movies. Then I saw the promo for _Braveheart_. Come to think of it, they showed the new _Psycho_ on SciFi, too, but I dismissed it as plausibly within the horror/SF overlap. No, this can’t happen. _Braveheart_ can be on AMC (being Best Picture for 1995 gives it automatic “classic” status). _Robocop 3_ is reserved for SciFi. Not the other way around! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/braveheart-on-the-scifi-channel/138565.md?page=2)