# brazil84: preening, sexist, self-imortant, gynophobic douche

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 25, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046 "2011-08-25T15:57:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/201 "2011-08-26T19:03:25Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> Simple experience gives credence to this assertion.

You should try the complicated kind.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/202 "2011-08-26T19:03:54Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> This thread is awash in whatever internet tough guys have instead of testosterone.

Androstenelione?

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/203 "2011-08-26T19:04:05Z")

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I can’t speak of everyone, but reading the quoted in the OP, nowhere do I see where Brazil stated that **all** women wanted one thing. It’s more along the lines of someone disagrees with Brazil’s views or preferences, so they feel the need to point out he’s \<enter disparaging adjective here\>.

Not exactly sure how that works, but it doesn’t.

> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> You should try the complicated kind.

Simplicity is often the best measure/solution.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/204 "2011-08-26T19:06:41Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> There is no one thing all women want.

Except my sweet, sweet love!

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/205 "2011-08-26T19:07:45Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> Except my sweet, sweet love!

There are no two things all women want! _swoon_

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/206 "2011-08-26T19:09:03Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> There are no two things all women want! _swoon_

Don’t forget: we also want to go out with a guy who loves to listen and enjoys designing furniture and then having a conversation about where it could be placed in a room.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/207 "2011-08-26T19:09:45Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> There are no two things all women want! _swoon_

Money and sex.

So what do I win?

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/208 "2011-08-26T19:11:44Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> Money and sex.
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> So what do I win?

I actually know an assexual woman who lives with very little money, by choice (she is heavily involved in volunteer work).

So… wrong again.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/209 "2011-08-26T19:11:52Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Don’t forget: we also want to go out with a guy who loves to listen and enjoys designing furniture and then having a conversation about where it could be placed in a room.

And who can drive! 'Cause we’re bad at that.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/210 "2011-08-26T19:12:46Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> I actually know an assexual woman who lives with very little money, by choice (she is heavily involved in volunteer work).
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> So… wrong again.

Fine. Food and sleep\*.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/211 "2011-08-26T19:14:27Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> Fine. Food and sleep\*.

Nah. I know an anorexic who thinks sleep interferes with getting things done.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/212 "2011-08-26T19:15:19Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Don’t forget: we also want to go out with a guy who loves to listen and enjoys designing furniture and then having a conversation about where it could be placed in a room.

Well, but that’s true of all humanity! Who doesn’t love designing an innovative futon that can also serve as a wardrobe and lemonade stand? WHO DOESN’T?

> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> Nah. I know an anorexic who thinks sleep interferes with getting things done.

Sleep sucks.

And I’m so good at it, too.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/213 "2011-08-26T19:16:31Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Don’t forget: we also want to go out with a guy who loves to listen and enjoys designing furniture and then having a conversation about where it could be placed in a room.

I hear what you’re saying and will discuss it in detail once I put the finish on this coffee table that will really open up the room if placed 24" in front of the center of the couch.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/214 "2011-08-26T19:17:20Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Well, but that’s true of all humanity! Who doesn’t love designing an innovative futon that can also serve as a wardrobe and lemonade stand? WHO DOESN’T?

…she said, waving her gun around.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/215 "2011-08-26T19:17:28Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> Nah. I know an anorexic who thinks sleep interferes with getting things done.

Air! You can’t do without air!

Must…be…right…about something!

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/216 "2011-08-26T19:18:20Z")

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Like I’m going to let a bunch of women tell me what women like, anyway. How many scientific message board field reports have _you_ published?

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/217 "2011-08-26T19:24:17Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> let’s just assume that my response to that was just so totally wrong

Ahead of you on that one. I always do.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/218 "2011-08-26T19:32:18Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> This doesn’t make Brazil sexist, gynophobic, misogynistic or whatever other adjective you want to use. It strikes me as odd that you would criticize someone for stating that it’s **his** responsibility to lead a family. I’d be willing to say that-- outside of this board, which seems to be somewhat of an anomaly-- most people would wholeheartedly agree with the statement that a man is responsible for leading the family/being the head of his household. Sure, you could think that archaic or whatever, but I’m not seeing how such a statement makes Brazil anything you said he is.

Really? I must hang out with the wrong people, then. Most of the ones I know (even those who are in a traditional man-works, woman-stays-home-with-the-kids relationships) do not “wholeheartedly agree” with the idea that the man is the leader of the family/head of the household. This is an archaic notion. A marriage is a partnership. The partners might choose to divide the roles in more traditional ways, but I would be willing to wager that most families look at it more this way than “man as leader.”

Me, I have a big problem with the idea that just because men have outies and women have innies, they get to be the boss. That’s the most asinine notion I’ve seen in awhile. If there’s even a “boss” (as in, person who makes most of the decisions to guide the family) I think it should be mutually agreed upon and be the more intelligent and better decision-making person, not the man by virtue of the fact that he was born with a penis.

Ugh, this is a hot button for me. I don’t care how individual couples choose to conduct their relationships (as long as both are happy with the decision), but to extrapolate this to most couples…ugh. I didn’t grow up in the Fifties and I’d rather not go back there, thanks. If this was even true in the Fifties.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/219 "2011-08-26T19:32:48Z")

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> [@villa](#):
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> Ahead of you on that one. I always do.

I wouldn’t blame you. It’s said, after all, that ignorance is bliss.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/220 "2011-08-26T19:33:48Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Sleep sucks.
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> And I’m so good at it, too.

You’re good at… which of them? Sleeping, or… 😃

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