# brazil84: preening, sexist, self-imortant, gynophobic douche **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046 "2011-08-25T15:57:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/81 "2011-08-25T19:45:33Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Any marriage whose cornerstone is “Respect mah authoriteh!” is not something I want to be part of. What accent do you want it in? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/82 "2011-08-25T19:46:41Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Just want to get it on the record that **Bosstrain** \<\> **Bosstone**. ‘‘Why is **Bosstone** acting like such a…? Oh.’’ On preview: What **Freudian Slit** said. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/83 "2011-08-25T19:48:57Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > They aren’t. They are, however, great believers in their own superiority over the other members of this board: a curious prison without walls, filled with grotesque creatures they loathe, from which they are inexplicably powerless to escape. > [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > I dont know about Bricker, but that’s classic Randian behavior. It definitely comforts them in their thoughts that they must be extraordinary since they dont think like the masses. To the point where it’s all about taking a position most people would find appalling just for the sake of feeling elite and mediocre-free. You know, like when you were 12. Me?? **Vinyl Turnip** , was your remark directed at me?? ETA: > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > For the record, my comment was referring to **Rand Rover** and **Shodan** specifically, and not **Bricker**. Whew. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Soliloquy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@Soliloquy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soliloquy)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/84 "2011-08-25T19:50:05Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Just want to get it on the record that **Bosstrain** \<\> **Bosstone**. Well, that will teach me not to be lazy and abbreviate any more names. Sorry about that. I promise I know the difference between a Bosstone and Bosstrain. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/85 "2011-08-25T19:50:16Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > When you have an adult entering into a relationship of any kind, I think our notions of freedom and self-governance demand that we take a person at their word that they are acting of their own will. Do you say this about women who live under Shariah law or who “choose” to undergo genital mutilation? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/86 "2011-08-25T19:50:43Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > What accent do you want it in? 😉 Eric Cartman pelase! ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/87 "2011-08-25T19:50:45Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Surrendering one’s own autonomy and rights is not a rational decision for anybody. So everyone that has a job is acting irrationally? ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/88 "2011-08-25T19:51:16Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Just want to get it on the record that **Bosstrain** \<\> **Bosstone**. The question is, can you safely grab my arm, or will the internal bleeding kill me? I need to know in case I ever go to a Dopefest and go around shaking hands with the wrong people. I’d be raping some and being murdered by others and it’s just very confusing. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/89 "2011-08-25T19:51:31Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Apparently this is my day to defend **Diogenes**. > > Nope, can’t agree with you. While there are posters on this board to whom your summary does aptly apply, **Diogenes** is not in their number. He has inveighed more than once against D/s type lifestyles and scenes. Don’t forget swingers. I don’t like them either. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/90 "2011-08-25T19:53:36Z")
Or people who leave the company of their minor children for no reason other than their own personal enjoyment! Never mind, that’s another thread. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/91 "2011-08-25T19:53:45Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > The question is, can you safely grab my arm, or will the internal bleeding kill me? I need to know in case I ever go to a Dopefest and go around shaking hands with the wrong people. I’d be raping some and being murdered by others and it’s just very confusing. Just have a few drinks first. Then we will know who to blame… ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/92 "2011-08-25T19:53:52Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > So everyone that has a job is acting irrationally? Taking a job does not require you to surrender your civil rights or subordinate your entire life to the service of another. And if you want to contrive a job which _does_ requirte those thingsm then, no, it’s not a rational choice. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/93 "2011-08-25T19:56:01Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > Is it? Cool. Which gene, or set of genes? IGSF1 at distal Xq25. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/94 "2011-08-25T19:57:14Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Just want to get it on the record that **Bosstrain** \<\> **Bosstone**. Does Bosstone = Argent Foxtrot? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/95 "2011-08-25T19:58:56Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > I dont know about Bricker, but that’s classic Randian behavior. It definitely comforts them in their thoughts that they must be extraordinary since they dont think like the masses. To the point where it’s all about taking a position most people would find appalling just for the sake of feeling elite and mediocre-free. You know, like when you were 12. Typical idiotic comment from you. And I love how you characterize my position (that it’s stupid to criticize agreements other people freely make just because you would not make them) as appalling. And I wasn’t aware that Dio specifically was not OK with dom/sub relationships, so I retract that comment as it applies to him. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/96 "2011-08-25T19:59:24Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > I have a theory that numbers at the end of a username generally indicate an idiot, an asshole, or some combination thereof. QFT ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/97 "2011-08-25T20:00:03Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Does Bosstone = Argent Foxtrot? no, No, NO! For the umpty-zillionth time, it’s Agent Towers! ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/98 "2011-08-25T20:02:03Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > When you have an adult entering into a relationship of any kind, I think our notions of freedom and self-governance demand that we take a person at their word that they are acting of their own will. > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Do you say this about women who live under Shariah law or who “choose” to undergo genital mutilation? Yes. Of course, I am not saying that we should therefore conclude that every victim of FGM and every woman living under Sharia law are doing so of their own free will. I am saying precisely what you responded to: When you have an **adult** entering into a relationship of any kind, I think our notions of freedom and self-governance demand that **we take a person at their word** that they are acting of their own will. That would seem to exclude the vast majority of FGM victims, who are not adults when mutilated. As for the millions of women who live under Sharia law, if they want to get out but can’t, then obviously they are not claiming they are acting of their own free will. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/99 "2011-08-25T20:07:06Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > The question is, can you safely grab my arm, or will the internal bleeding kill me? I need to know in case I ever go to a Dopefest and go around shaking hands with the wrong people. I’d be raping some and being murdered by others and it’s just very confusing. I have been assured that my arm-grabbing is a satisfactory experience for all parties involved. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/100 "2011-08-25T20:09:21Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Taking a job does not require you to surrender your civil rights or subordinate your entire life to the service of another. > > And if you want to contrive a job which _does_ requirte those thingsm then, no, it’s not a rational choice. 1. You are changing your original claim (of course, you are Dio, and that’s what you do). You first spoke of surrendering autonomy and now you are speaking of subordinating your entire life. 2. Really this post is inveighing against marriage itself–all marriages involve surrendering your civil rights and subordinating your life to another, at least to a certain degree. 3. Really you are just using the word “rational” to indicate whether you agree or not with someone else’s decision (ie, the exact thing I’m accusing you of doing). That is, if someone maes an agreement you wouldn’t make, then by that fact alone you believe they are acting irrationally. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046.md?page=6)