# brazil84: preening, sexist, self-imortant, gynophobic douche

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 25, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046 "2011-08-25T15:57:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/101 "2011-08-25T20:13:48Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> 1. Really you are just using the word “rational” to indicate whether you agree or not with someone else’s decision (ie, the exact thing I’m accusing you of doing). That is, if someone maes an agreement you wouldn’t make, then by that fact alone you believe they are acting irrationally.

That sounds like the opinion of an expert.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/102 "2011-08-25T20:16:30Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> 1. You are changing your original claim (of course, you are Dio, and that’s what you do). You first spoke of surrendering autonomy and now you are speaking of subordinating your entire life.

There is no difference between those two things.

> [@](#):
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> 1. Really this post is inveighing against marriage itself

Horseshit.

> [@](#):
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> –all marriages involve surrendering your civil rights and subordinating your life to another, at least to a certain degree.

Mine doesn’t.

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> 1. Really you are just using the word “rational” to indicate whether you agree or not with someone else’s decision

No, I’m using it to indicate rationality.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/103 "2011-08-25T20:16:32Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> 1. Really this post is inveighing against marriage itself–all marriages involve surrendering your civil rights and subordinating your life to another, at least to a certain degree.

Remind me what civil rights you give up by getting married again?

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/104 "2011-08-25T20:27:06Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> There is no difference between those two things.
> 
> Horseshit.  
> Mine doesn’t.
> 
> No, I’m using it to indicate rationality.

:rolleyes: I forgot who I was dealing with there for a bit. Thanks for the reminder.

So, Dio, if you told your wife that you were going to quit your job and move to a kibbutz to live by yourself, and she and the kids couldn’t come with you, your wife would be cool with that and wouldn’t divorce your ass?

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/105 "2011-08-25T20:28:18Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Typical idiotic comment from you. And I love how you characterize my position (that it’s stupid to criticize agreements other people freely make just because you would not make them) as appalling.
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> And I wasn’t aware that Dio specifically was not OK with dom/sub relationships, so I retract that comment as it applies to him.

Highly ironic to belch about “typical idiotic comments” coming from me when in the same post you 're actually eating crow for one of your usual rants.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/106 "2011-08-25T20:31:36Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> :rolleyes: I forgot who I was dealing with there for a bit. Thanks for the reminder.
> 
> So, Dio, if you told your wife that you were going to quit your job and move to a kibbutz to live by yourself, and she and the kids couldn’t come with you, your wife would be cool with that and wouldn’t divorce your ass?

I don’t follow your logic. You don’t seem to be aware of the difference between partnership and subordination.

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/107 "2011-08-25T20:38:46Z")

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I tried to tell my wife about this and the other thread, thinking she would get a kick out of them.

She just told me to “shut the fuck up, and get back to your chores”.

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**Author:** ![Bosstrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Bosstrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstrain)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/108 "2011-08-25T21:10:08Z")

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Thanks for pointing out the misspellings, everyone, super! :rolleyes:

> [@Soliloquy](#):
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> I’ve won more than one physical fight, sans weaponry, against males who outsized me.
> 
> I’m just gonna stop there. Seriously not worth arguing… All of his 24 years of wisdom (not to bash those as young or younger who actually DO display wisdom) might crush me.

Strange, no one ever wants to fight me, I’ve actually never been in a fight. One time some stupid kid tried to steal my bike, and all I did was pull back my fist and he goes running to mommy. That was 14 or 15 years ago, now it’s very evident that my size is not to be tangled with. In fact, it would be most unwise to shoot me, better make sure I drop with the first one, ‘cause you won’t get a second chance…just sayin’. 😉

To me, you are all vultures, since you can cowardly hide behind your computers, you don’t feel threatend while picking on someone. I for one will stand against the numbers, even though that makes me the bad guy, I am not a coward, nor a stone thrower.

Do any of you personally know **Brazil84**??? If you met him and got to know him you’d probably think differently. My motto: if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all…I think that was a line from Bambi.

Why don’t you ever take sides at least, am I truly the first to defend him? That’s sad. I guess no one challenges the norm anymore, you all just willingly submit to Hollywood’s influence like mindless drones. Women are not superior as the movies claim them to be, they are, in fact, equal. (yes, Hollywood has everything to do with this discusion, mostly because we wouldn’t be talking about this if it wasn’t for the media)

🙂 (I put a happy face at the end of my posts to let everyone know I’m not at all enraged or angry, just stating my opinions) 🙂

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/109 "2011-08-25T21:12:51Z")

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Your opinions are retarded.

Also, fuck Bambi.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/110 "2011-08-25T21:14:57Z")

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> [@Bosstrain](#):
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> To me, you are all vultures, since you can cowardly hide behind your computers, you don’t feel threatend while picking on someone. I for one will stand against the numbers, even though that makes me the bad guy, I am not a coward, nor a stone thrower.

Internet Tough Guy calling others ITGs. Cute.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/111 "2011-08-25T21:17:11Z")

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> [@Bosstrain](#):
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> To me, you are all vultures, since you can cowardly hide behind your computers, you don’t feel threatend while picking on someone. I for one will stand against the numbers, even though that makes me the bad guy, I am not a coward, nor a stone thrower.
> 
> . . .

Instead you get behind the wheel of a 2 ton weapon and play chicken with other people’s lives.

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**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/112 "2011-08-25T21:17:23Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I don’t follow your logic. You don’t seem to be aware of the difference between partnership and subordination.

There is a humongous difference —but both do indeed restrict your autonomy. Also, on the topic of it being irrational to give away your autonomy, I think anyone who has ever experienced a civil war would like to talk to you.

ETA: are all the accusations against **Bosstrain** about road rage related to some old thread I’ve never read? Just curiosity. Also, to **Bosstrain** : doesn’t it strike you as a little pathetic to say, “If we lived in a world that we don’t live in, I’d be really attractive!”?

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/113 "2011-08-25T21:18:43Z")

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> [@Bosstrain](#):
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> Thanks for pointing out the misspellings, everyone, super! :rolleyes:
> 
> Strange, no one ever wants to fight me, I’ve actually never been in a fight. One time some stupid kid tried to steal my bike, and all I did was pull back my fist and he goes running to mommy. That was 14 or 15 years ago, now it’s very evident that my size is not to be tangled with. In fact, it would be most unwise to shoot me, better make sure I drop with the first one, ‘cause you won’t get a second chance…just sayin’. 😉
> 
> To me, you are all vultures, since you can cowardly hide behind your computers, you don’t feel threatend while picking on someone. I for one will stand against the numbers, even though that makes me the bad guy, I am not a coward, nor a stone thrower.
> 
> Do any of you personally know **Brazil84**??? If you met him and got to know him you’d probably think differently. My motto: if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all…I think that was a line from Bambi.
> 
> Why don’t you ever take sides at least, am I truly the first to defend him? That’s sad. I guess no one challenges the norm anymore, you all just willingly submit to Hollywood’s influence like mindless drones. Women are not superior as the movies claim them to be, they are, in fact, equal. (yes, Hollywood has everything to do with this discusion, mostly because we wouldn’t be talking about this if it wasn’t for the media)
> 
> 🙂 (I put a happy face at the end of my posts to let everyone know I’m not at all enraged or angry, just stating my opinions) 🙂

You quoted Bambi in the pit?

You really are as stupid as you seem.

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/114 "2011-08-25T21:20:12Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Internet Tough Guy calling others ITGs. Cute.

So, that was what [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=621690) was all about?

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/115 "2011-08-25T21:26:04Z")

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> [@Bosstrain](#):
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> 🙂 (I put a happy face at the end of my posts to let everyone know I’m not at all enraged or angry, just stating my opinions) 🙂

Funny, I always assume it means someone’s a Pick Up Artist.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/116 "2011-08-25T21:26:31Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Why don’t you ever take sides at least, am I truly the first to defend him? That’s sad. I guess no one challenges the norm anymore, you all just willingly submit to Hollywood’s influence like mindless drones. Women are not superior as the movies claim them to be, they are, in fact, equal. (yes, Hollywood has everything to do with this discusion, mostly because we wouldn’t be talking about this if it wasn’t for the media)

Don’t listen to what anybody else says. This is the greatest thought anybody has ever thought. The media, which is Hollywood, is the reason we’re talking about **brazil** ’s opinion about **Incubus’** friend’s marriage. Because Hollywood doesn’t want us to challenge the norm, which is equality, which is that women have no authority.

You have smashed the puny girlish scales from my eyes with your enormous mailed (I presume) fist, and the internal bleeding of knowledge is _blowing my mind_.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/117 "2011-08-25T21:26:52Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> Is it? Cool. Which gene, or set of genes?

> [@Bricker](#):
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> IGSF1 at distal Xq25.
> 
> 😃

:eek:

OH. NO. YOU. DI’N’T

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/118 "2011-08-25T21:28:06Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> Don’t listen to what anybody else says. This is the greatest thought anybody has ever thought. The media, which is Hollywood, is the reason we’re talking about **brazil** ’s opinion about **Incubus’** friend’s marriage. Because Hollywood doesn’t want us to challenge the norm, which is equality, which is that women have no authority.
> 
> You have smashed the puny girlish scales from my eyes with your enormous mailed (I presume) fist, and the internal bleeding of knowledge is _blowing my mind_.

I agree with Jimmy, and I hope you (Bosstrain, as distinct from Bosstone, who does not rip arms off people) continue posting here like this for the literal rest of my life.

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**Author:** ![Soliloquy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@Soliloquy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soliloquy)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/119 "2011-08-25T21:33:52Z")

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> [@Bosstrain](#):
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> Thanks for pointing out the misspellings, everyone, super! :rolleyes:
> 
> Strange, no one ever wants to fight me, I’ve actually never been in a fight. One time some stupid kid tried to steal my bike, and all I did was pull back my fist and he goes running to mommy. That was 14 or 15 years ago, now it’s very evident that my size is not to be tangled with. In fact, it would be most unwise to shoot me, better make sure I drop with the first one, ‘cause you won’t get a second chance…just sayin’. 😉

If I ever felt the need to shoot you, why would I stop at one? Pretty sure a double tap is equally effective on zombies and self-proclaimed giants.

Since you’re spouting cliché, how about “The bigger they come… The harder they cry when a girl kicks their ass.”

Of course, my tiny foot might just shatter on contact with your massive ass.

There are lots of people out there who could beat me down, if I let them. Something tells me you’re not one of those people.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazil84-preening-sexist-self-imortant-gynophobic-douche/594046/120 "2011-08-25T21:34:37Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> So, Dio, if you told your wife that you were going to quit your job and move to a kibbutz to live by yourself, and she and the kids couldn’t come with you, your wife would be cool with that and wouldn’t divorce your ass?

Waitaminute.

How can it be a [kibbutz](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz) if he’s by himself?

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