# Brazilian Election

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 4, 2026, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583 "2026-10-04T22:31:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2026, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/21 "2026-10-27T20:35:14Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> Apparently he flew first to Argentina where he was allowed to escape to Florida…

Florida? Who does he know in Florida who might let him bunk with them?  
🤔

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2026, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/22 "2026-10-27T23:34:49Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> The loser flees to the USA. Miami, I would guess. Those rich South Americans have a weak spot for Miami.
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> [Flávio Bolsonaro huye de Brasil hacia EEUU tras su derrota electoral](https://www.eldiario.es/internacional/flavio-bolsonaro-incumple-orden-entregar-pasaporte-paradero-desconocido_1_13619629.html)
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> > Flávio Bolsonaro has failed to comply with the order to surrender his passport and his whereabouts are unknown  
> > **[Local media](https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/colunas/monicabergamo/2026/10/aliados-de-flavio-bolsonaro-sao-avisados-de-que-ele-saiu-do-brasil.shtml)** (link in Portuguese) and Reuters report that allies of the defeated presidential candidate have confirmed that he will arrive in the United States in the coming hours

If his passport has been voided, doesn’t that make him an illegal immigrant? Does that mean he will be arrested on sight as soon as he lands in the U.S. and sent to a Central American hellhole prison? That seems to be SOP for this administration after all.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/23 "2026-10-28T01:54:52Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> If his passport has been voided, doesn’t that make him an illegal immigrant?

😉

Haha! Good one!

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# _ **Flávio Bolsonaro Flees Brazil for the U.S. After Election Defeat** _

The U.S. plans to issue a visa to Mr. Bolsonaro, a U.S. official said. Brazilian police had asked him to hand over his passports because of his links to an investigation.

[https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/27/world/americas/brazil-flavio-bolsonaro-flees-election.html?unlocked\_article\_code=1.MFE.guk5.8mPcDxHXH9\_k&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/27/world/americas/brazil-flavio-bolsonaro-flees-election.html?unlocked_article_code=1.MFE.guk5.8mPcDxHXH9_k&smid=url-share)

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/24 "2026-10-28T03:22:37Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The U.S. plans to issue a visa to Mr. Bolsonaro,

I wonder how much that cost him?

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**Author:** ![Mk\_VII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mk\_VII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mk_VII)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/25 "2026-10-28T11:35:32Z")

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A fourth term is not good for any one, or any system.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/26 "2026-10-28T12:41:31Z")

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Was this discussed?

[**Meta employees said Lula’s accounts were hindered during Brazil election - Reuters**](https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/meta-employees-said-lulas-accounts-were-hindered-during-brazil-election-folha-2026-10-16/)

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> Meta (META.O), opens new tab employees acknowledged in internal communications that the Instagram accounts of Brazilian ​President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva were hindered by ‌restrictions during the country’s election, newspaper Folha de S.Paulo reported on Friday, citing messages it reviewed.
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> The messages also acknowledged the platform recommended the profile ​of challenger Senator Flavio Bolsonaro, as well as his ​WhatsApp channel, according to the report.

Evil? Stupid? Both? Hanlon’s Razor? Occam’s? A Norelco triple-header electric razor with floating heads??

Any risk in putting an authoritarian (I’m mainly talking about the US) regime in bed with the tech bros?

No? Yeah. I don’t see it either 🙄

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/27 "2026-10-28T12:53:06Z")

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Better than fascism.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/28 "2026-10-28T13:03:07Z")

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> [@Mk\_VII](#):
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> A fourth term is not good for any one, or any system.

Well, a guy named Dewey was making almost the same point… he not only did lose to Roosevelt (FDR won a 4th term), Dewey then also lost 4 years later to Truman.  
[![](https://thumb.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Dewey_Defeats_Truman.jpg/330px-Dewey_Defeats_Truman.jpg?utm_source=en.wikipedia.org&utm_campaign=parser&utm_content=thumbnail) ](https://thumb.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Dewey_Defeats_Truman.jpg/330px-Dewey_Defeats_Truman.jpg?utm_source=en.wikipedia.org&utm_campaign=parser&utm_content=thumbnail)

BTW, the party of Bolsonaro accepted their defeat, Bolsonaro looks even more like the Caralho (Dick) that he is.  
[https://www.npr.org/2026/10/27/nx-s1-6019217/bolsonaro-flavio-lula-brazil-election-trump](https://www.npr.org/2026/10/27/nx-s1-6019217/bolsonaro-flavio-lula-brazil-election-trump)

> BRASILIA, Brazil — Brazil’s Liberal Party, the party of defeated presidential candidate Flávio Bolsonaro, has acknowledged the results of Sunday’s presidential election, recognizing incumbent [President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva’s victory](https://www.npr.org/2026/10/25/nx-s1-6016299/brazil-lula-bolsonaro-election). But Bolsonaro himself has yet to formally concede defeat.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/29 "2026-10-28T13:55:53Z")

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And da Silva was out of office for 12 years in between presidencies. Still, this and the mess with Dilma Roussef’s presidency does suggest a succession factions problem in the Workers’ Party: what happens the day there’s no Lula either atop the ticket or standing behind it.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/30 "2026-10-28T13:57:28Z")

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Totally, practically the first thing I said to my wife after we finished dancing with joy when it was confirmed that Lula won was “The fact that an 80 year old man needs to keep going to the line to save the left in Brazil is infuriating, how come there’s NO ONE ready to step in his shoes?”

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/31 "2026-10-28T14:01:25Z")

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“Needs answer fast”. After this term he is AGAIN limited from running consecutively.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/32 "2026-10-28T14:03:07Z")

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They have four years to get behind a competent successor, it shouldn’t be too hard… except that this is the Latin-American left a group that seemly CANNOT let it’s Great Men (or Women) go.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/33 "2026-10-28T14:04:20Z")

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Well, when Biden was elected the USA had four years to get behind a competent successor. That didn’t work out.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/34 "2026-10-28T14:07:31Z")

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But it’s mostly the exception rather than the rule in the U.S. and Europe it seems to me, while down here the exceptional thing is when a successful leader has a successor ready to step in when he or she retires (IF they retire, because they tend to hold to power until the grave)

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/35 "2026-10-28T20:51:11Z")

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Bolsonaro has declared himself the legitimate president of Brazil.  
These people truly have no shame.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/36 "2026-10-28T22:19:52Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> except that this is the Latin-American left a group that seemly CANNOT let it’s Great Men (or Women) go.

And the right can?

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/37 "2026-10-28T23:11:39Z")

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With depressing efficiency.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/38 "2026-10-28T23:47:29Z")

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I wonder if that dumbass is gonna try to convince the US to re-seat him by force.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/39 "2026-10-28T23:53:58Z")

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That’s what I fear, not that’s he’s going to try, he absolutely will, the fucking traitor, but that Trump actually will hear him.

If you want to know why people sometimes sympathize with horrible regimes like Iran think on this, if Iran had rolled over for Trump it’s very probable that Brazil would be in the crosshairs right now.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brazilian-election/1033583/40 "2026-10-29T11:48:01Z")

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I really can’t see Any. Reason. Whatsoever. why Trump would want, or seek, to have mini-Bolsonaro both in power _and_ beholden to him and the US:

> **[What Are The Major Natural Resources Of Brazil?](https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-major-natural-resources-of-brazil.html)**
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> Brazil is endowed with rich natural resources.

Nope. None.

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