# Breaking Bad 3.03 "I.F.T." OPEN SPOILERS

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 5, 2010, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-3-03-i-f-t-open-spoilers/534994 "2010-04-05T06:27:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-3-03-i-f-t-open-spoilers/534994/61 "2010-04-08T16:23:58Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> What did that have to do with Walt?

Re the little kid – actually, that might be something **good** to lay at Walt’s door. Jesse was at the house because the kid’s parents had ripped off one of Jesse’s dealers, and Walt insisted that Jesse get the money back. If Jesse hadn’t been there, the situation probably wouldn’t have changed for the kid.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-3-03-i-f-t-open-spoilers/534994/62 "2010-04-08T17:26:14Z")

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> [@The\_Controvert](#):
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> I thought that happened on a different day. Walt gets the call to sell the meth, he frantically runs to Jesse, busts open the back door and shook Jesse. He takes the meth and sells it, missing the birth of his daughter.
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> Much later, Jesse tells Jane about his money, Jane blackmails Walt, and Walt gives up the cash. Jane and Jesse go on the drug binge that will end up killing Jane. After Walt spoke to Jane’s father in the bar, he felt he owed it to Jesse to help him, so he went back and found Jane choking on vomit.
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> _At no point, did Walt disturb Jane that night._

You have the timeline correct, but Walt does disturb Jane - she’s sleeping side by side with Jesse in the position she taught him to prevent choking. Walt tries to wake Jesse up by shaking him, and in the process knocks Jane on her back, and after a few seconds she starts to choke.

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**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-3-03-i-f-t-open-spoilers/534994/63 "2010-04-08T17:52:06Z")

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I stand corrected… just rewatched Episode 212, Phoenix and SenorBeef’s description of those events is accurate.

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-3-03-i-f-t-open-spoilers/534994/64 "2010-04-08T18:35:41Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> You’re going to have to connect the dots on this one, because I’m not seeing it at all. What did Walt do that made Jane start using again?

I don’t blame Walt for Jane’s relapse. I blame him for letting her die. He made a decision to keep selling after his remission which leads to the money Jane blackmails him with. If he never had problems with drug money then he could have saved Jane with no problems.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-3-03-i-f-t-open-spoilers/534994/65 "2010-04-08T20:54:54Z")

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> [@Enright3](#):
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> Ha ha sorry about that.  
> How about this: [AMC | Watch TV Shows & Movies Online | Stream Current Episodes](http://www.amctv.com/videos/breaking-bad/)  
> Under the tab: Inside Season 3  
> Video: Inside Breaking Bad: 303, “I.F.T.”  
> About 4:02 into the video.

Awesome - thanks. Very tight edit there - easy for me to mishear it.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-3-03-i-f-t-open-spoilers/534994/66 "2010-04-09T04:54:58Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> I assumed he got rid of it because it had bad associations with his dead ex in his mind.

Maybe. Doesn’t quite jibe with the way he kept calling her voicemail, though.

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**Author:** ![genXmalcontent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8baadc/32.png) [@genXmalcontent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/genXmalcontent)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-3-03-i-f-t-open-spoilers/534994/67 "2010-04-09T05:53:44Z")

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> [@Enright3](#):
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> I like the back story about how Danny Trejo’s head ended up on the turtle’s back. That dude is so awesome.

I chuckled when the opening credits listed him as a guest star. It reminded me of when in the Police Squad opening credits the listed guest star died before the show started.

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**Author:** ![genXmalcontent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8baadc/32.png) [@genXmalcontent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/genXmalcontent)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-3-03-i-f-t-open-spoilers/534994/68 "2010-04-09T06:44:48Z")

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I see the choices made by those considered to be the upstanding members of society and realize that they all think they have some moral high ground when it’s all an illusion. It’s all Pleasant Valley Sunday this show. Brilliant science teacher Walt (who’s a meth cook with a price it now seems on his entire family’s head) and his lovely wife Skylar (who’s a control freak who would rather keep up appearances than turn in any of her family for anything). Top cop Hank (a racist as well as I suspect misogynistic and homophobic who is all talk but a chicken) and his lovely wife Marie (a bored housewife that shop-lifts). Jessie’s parents (who disown their son using his drug abuse as an excuse when really it is out of shame that he is not as brilliant and obedient as their little Einstein) and I assume honor role younger child (who will also be screwed up loosing his older brother in such a cruel way). All I can think is “Jessie is the only respectable person on this show.” And that is a rough conclusion to come to in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![genXmalcontent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8baadc/32.png) [@genXmalcontent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/genXmalcontent)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-3-03-i-f-t-open-spoilers/534994/69 "2010-04-09T06:54:50Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> She was sleeping on her side specifically to prevent the choking hazard, and he arrived and shook Jesse and turned her over - so he’s responsible in that sense. It’s incidental, but if he wasn’t there, presumably she wouldn’t have died.

I don’t know if she would or would not have died if Walt were not there. What I recall from that episode is that Jane rolled over and started to choke and Walt was about to turn her back onto her side, than stopped and decided to let her die. I presume it was to cover his butt regarding the blackmail. And I am not sure if he thought he was also protecting Jessie by getting her out of his life because of the heroin use. My jury is still out on that one. I consider that death to be Walt’s fault.

I don’t remember if he knew that the man in the bar was her father. I am thinking he did not know until the news report of the crash.

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