# Breaking Bad 4.02 "Thirty-Eight Snub" 7/24

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 24, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212 "2011-07-24T21:59:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/21 "2011-07-25T15:14:45Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> What’s up with Walt and the [del]rocks[/del]minerals? He did mention one was blue, but I can’t imagine what blue crystals would tell him about blue crystal meth.

You mean Hank, of course. Hank is in self-pity mode, big time. He’s bored out of his skull, so has taken up a “hobby” to pass the time, obsessing over buying up rocks on ebay so he doesn’t have to think about his situation. If he ever re-engages in the hunt for the meth lab, those boxes will sit unopened.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/22 "2011-07-25T15:31:56Z")

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**It was Mike that called Walt** and said “Go home, Walter” - which is what I thought at the time, until I read this thread and you people started making me doubt it. So I checked the Episode Recap on AMC’s website.

> [@AMC](#):
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> Late that night, Walt approaches Gus’s house, gun in hand, but loses his nerve when Mike calls telling him to “Go home, Walter.” His every move is being watched.

> **[AMC | Watch TV Shows & Movies Online | Stream Current Episodes](https://www.amc.com)**
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> Watch the latest full episodes and video extras for AMC shows: The Walking Dead, Better Call Saul, Killing Eve, Fear the Walking Dead, Mad Men and more.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/23 "2011-07-25T15:46:29Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> For a while now I’ve been saying to friends and family, “why are they just assuming that Bogdan will sell the carwash?”

Oh, is that his name? We’ve been referring to him as “Fuck your eyebrows!”

I’ve been wondering about Hank’s treatment of Marie too. Were he my husband, he’d be struggling to remove his minerals from his rectum by now.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/24 "2011-07-25T16:18:21Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> I don’t think Breaking Bad would do this, but I hope Mike doesn’t have the [Incurable Cough of Death](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IncurableCoughOfDeath) (TV Trope link: a character coughs in one scene, reveals they’re terminally ill two scenes later then dies when inconvenient).

I thought the same thing… But I could see them going that way without it feeling \*too \*cliche. Maybe he and Walt can bond over how their illnesses caused them to “break bad.” I do think that Mike is eventually going to come around to Walt’s way of thinking and at some point will get him in a room with him. For sure that .38 Snub will get used in the 3rd act. Jim Beaver’s character should have been named “Chekhov.”

> [@Tarwater](#):
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> I’m thinking the same thing. It sounds only vaguely like Gus, and it sounds nothing like Mike. You can hear it again in this [this video (Inside Breaking Bad: Thirty-Eight Snub)](http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/inside-breaking-bad-thirty-eight-snub). It’s either the new Victor, or it’s some henchman that we haven’t seen before.

I thought it was Gus. It was either him or Mike, but for sure not the new guy. Walt recognized the caller when he looked at the phone, which is why he hesitated when he answered it.

> [@voltaire](#):
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> **It was Mike that called Walt** and said “Go home, Walter” - which is what I thought at the time, until I read this thread and you people started making me doubt it. So I checked the Episode Recap on AMC’s website.  
> [AMC | Watch TV Shows & Movies Online | Stream Current Episodes](http://www.amctv.com/shows/breaking-bad/episodes/season-4/thirty-eight-snub)

Well there you go (though network recappers are notoriously misinformed about the shows they’re writing about), I’ll believe them unless we hear otherwise.

So Mike trailed Walt to Gus’ house, right?

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/25 "2011-07-25T16:49:55Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> I thought it was Gus. It was either him or Mike, but for sure not the new guy. Walt recognized the caller when he looked at the phone, which is why he hesitated when he answered it.
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> Well there you go (though network recappers are notoriously misinformed about the shows they’re writing about), I’ll believe them unless we hear otherwise.
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> So Mike trailed Walt to Gus’ house, right?

Yeah, and that fits. Mike said in the bar that he saw that Walt had been packing heat while in the lab.

Had it been Gus that called Walter, it would make very little sense for him to simply say “Go home, Walter” and not react MUCH more forcefully.

Also, Walt’s later action of following Mike to the bar to have a heart-to-heart is consistent with him being caught in the act by Mike. Walt would have been MUCH more freaked out had he been called by Gus, and he wouldn’t be still proposing that Mike get him in a room alone with Gus. If it had been Gus on the phone, Walt would know that Gus would be expecting some treachery.

100% it was Mike on the phone.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/26 "2011-07-25T17:06:07Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> Oh, is that his name? We’ve been referring to him as “Fuck your eyebrows!”
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> I’ve been wondering about Hank’s treatment of Marie too. Were he my husband, he’d be struggling to remove his minerals from his rectum by now.

That’s part of what makes the situation so dysfunctional. Marie is trying to be nice and supportive because Hank’s obviously been through hell. But she’s taking it way too far and turning into a doormat. Hopefully she’ll eventually call him on it and the emotional logjam will break.

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**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/27 "2011-07-25T17:18:05Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> For a while now I’ve been saying to friends and family, “why are they just assuming that Bogdan will sell the carwash?” They’re making all of these plans for laundering money through the carwash and they haven’t even approached the guy yet!
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> So tonight my concerns were vindicated.

Right.

I assume that buying the laser-tag arena is still an option. We haven’t heard otherwise, have we?

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**Author:** ![Daedelus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Daedelus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daedelus)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/28 "2011-07-25T17:30:48Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> That’s part of what makes the situation so dysfunctional. Marie is trying to be nice and supportive because Hank’s obviously been through hell. But she’s taking it way too far and turning into a doormat. Hopefully she’ll eventually call him on it and the emotional logjam will break.

I certainly hope so, because his (to me) completely unwarranted emotional abuse of her is getting out of hand. I honestly can’t recall anything that she’s done or said (I know she had a bit of kleptomania in earlier seasons) recently that justifies him acting like such an ass. More than likely, it’s a lot of marital issues that have been magnified due to his condition, but that doesn’t mean he gets to have a 24/7 pity party and be a complete dick to the woman who loves him enough to wipe his ass and clean out his bedpan every day.

On the other hand, I got chills watching Jesse break down after his party was over. Just magnificent acting. Very excited about the rest of this season.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/29 "2011-07-25T17:44:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Bob Ducca]  
Jim Beaver’s character should have been named “Chekhov.”

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I was sort of hoping they’d call him Bobby for his character on _Supernatural_. (He has to make the money to build demon-bunkers in his basement somehow.)

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/30 "2011-07-25T18:56:36Z")

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> [@Bytegeist](#):
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> Right.
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> I assume that buying the laser-tag arena is still an option. We haven’t heard otherwise, have we?

I’m wondering if Walt will try to make Bogdan an “offer he can’t refuse” or even worse, decide to simply eliminate him from the picture. That hydrofluoric acid is useful stuff.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/31 "2011-07-25T19:04:19Z")

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> [@Bytegeist](#):
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> Right.
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> I assume that buying the laser-tag arena is still an option. We haven’t heard otherwise, have we?

I don’t understand why she’s so gung-ho on the carwash. For money laundering you want a business that does lots of cash business- bars, convenience stores, check cashing places, etc.. I’d think more people today would pay for a custom carwash with debit card than with cash.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/32 "2011-07-25T19:07:42Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> I don’t understand why she’s so gung-ho on the carwash. For money laundering you want a business that does lots of cash business- bars, convenience stores, check cashing places, etc.. I’d think more people today would pay for a custom carwash with debit card than with cash.

She gave her reasoning for preferring the carwash. Walt used to work there so he’s somewhat familiar with the business. It wouldn’t look as strange as it would if he suddenly bought, for example, a laser tag arena.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/33 "2011-07-25T19:18:10Z")

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“We don’t cut the pizza and pass the savings on to you!”. Now thats funny.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/34 "2011-07-25T19:22:11Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> “We don’t cut the pizza and pass the savings on to you!”. Now thats funny.

Then they’re going on about man hours and how many seconds it takes to cut a pizza. 😃

Jessie: “What am I going to do with this?”  
Skinny Pete: “Ya got some scissors?”

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/35 "2011-07-25T19:22:31Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> I don’t understand why she’s so gung-ho on the carwash. For money laundering you want a business that does lots of cash business- bars, convenience stores, check cashing places, etc.. I’d think more people today would pay for a custom carwash with debit card than with cash.

With places like bars and convenience stores, can’t you keep track of their earning capacity by counting the number of supplies they sell?

For a decent money laundering operation you would need something that sells services instead of goods. That way no one would know how many sales you’ve made unless they sit outside your business all day and count.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/36 "2011-07-25T19:27:58Z")

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> [@GameHat](#):
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> Also Jesse’s near weeping, then hardening into dead-eyed stare that closed the episode. Seriously, seriously, that was some good acting.

And yet again a perfect song to end it, the Honey Claws’ [Digital Animal](http://youtu.be/NxSMsuXGJI4).

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/37 "2011-07-25T19:34:16Z")

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> [@Lakai](#):
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> With places like bars and convenience stores, can’t you keep track of their earning capacity by counting the number of supplies they sell?

Yeah, but as long as it’s independently owned you can take a lot of overpriced Vienna sausages and Red Bull to a dumpster and claim they were sold.

[QUOTE=Lakai]  
For a decent money laundering operation you would need something that sells services instead of goods. That way no one would know how many sales you’ve made unless they sit outside your business all day and count.  
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For Walt, “consulting work” would be a great way to launder it if he could convince some organization or even set up a dummy company to pay him to consult on chemical matters.

I think Mike had some respect for Walt, or at least understood his motives, after Gale was killed, but Walt botched that in the bar. It was a stupid (but I guess believable) thing for an intelligent guy to do: “I want to kill one of the most powerful and ruthless men in the southwest and want you to help me”.

As I’ve mentioned before I’ve yet to accurately predict anything on the show, but I still see this one moving towards Walt turning state’s evidence in the final episodes.

I wonder if there’s been an upswing in porkpie hat sales since this show began.

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**Author:** ![Prox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@Prox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prox)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/38 "2011-07-25T19:58:10Z")

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It seemed to me Mike is pretty worried about his position in Gus’s organization. Victor’s death proved the muscle aren’t indispensable whereas the cookers are. Mike isn’t one to make broad, disrupting moves on a moments thought, so for now he’s sticking with Gus, but I expect that to change as the Season progresses.

[QUOTE=Sampiro]  
She gave her reasoning for preferring the carwash. Walt used to work there so he’s somewhat familiar with the business. It wouldn’t look as strange as it would if he suddenly bought, for example, a laser tag arena.  
[/quote]  
I understand the reasoning for buying a carwash, but I don’t understand why it has to be _that_ one. Surely, any carwash would do, and it seems that it would be better to have one where the workers don’t know Walt and his history.

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/39 "2011-07-25T20:06:00Z")

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> [@Prox](#):
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> It seemed to me Mike is pretty worried about his position in Gus’s organization. Victor’s death proved the muscle aren’t indispensable whereas the cookers are. Mike isn’t one to make broad, disrupting moves on a moments thought, so for now he’s sticking with Gus, but I expect that to change as the Season progresses.
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> I understand the reasoning for buying a carwash, but I don’t understand why it has to be _that_ one. Surely, any carwash would do, and it seems that it would be better to have one where the workers don’t know Walt and his history.

Why? Makes perfect sense to me that when a man who has struggled and been beaten down and shamed his about his money situation his whole life finally hits it big, that’s exactly what he’d want to do: OWN the place where he felt so shamed.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/40 "2011-07-25T20:10:38Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> “We don’t cut the pizza and pass the savings on to you!”. Now thats funny.

And a nice nod to the people who complained about Walt throwing the pizza on the roof last season w/o it falling apart in mid-air.

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