# Breaking Bad 4.02 "Thirty-Eight Snub" 7/24 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212 "2011-07-24T21:59:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/61 "2011-07-26T01:08:31Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Has anyone checked out IMDB for the titles of a certain upcoming episode? > If you’ll recall, in the past, we had 737, Down, Over, ABQ. > > This season we had, Box Cutter, then 38 Snub and coming up we have > > Shotgun Hey, it’s just like Seinfeld. All the episode titles are simple nouns. And the next episode after this coming week? “Pizza Scissors” ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/62 "2011-07-26T01:34:30Z")
> [@Chipacabra](#): > > I’m finding the Hank and Marie dynamic to be pretty believable, actually. Painful and heartbreaking, yes, but believable. > > Hank’s in the lowest and most vulnerable place of his life right now, and Marie is there for every moment of it. That in and of itself is going to lead to irrational resentment. Also, Marie’s attempts to be helpful and supportive to her husband are actually causing her to behave very differently than she did before. So now Hank has this double whammy: His invalidity has made the woman he married disappear, and this new woman who is somehow both sycophantic and condescending has taken her place. I both agree and identify with this. I tend to push people away when I’m in a pretty shitty place - it’s only the people who continue to act normal with me who I don’t. Marie was being supportive - but it could very easily come across as phony enthusiasm. That annoys me greatly (even when I know it’s coming from someone who means well), and I’d have gotten really snarky with her. ---
**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/63 "2011-07-26T01:41:27Z")
You can learn a lot by looking at the top billed cast too. In the next two episodes there will be a character named Sketchy The last few episodes don’t even have names on IMDb, but they do have the characters Drug Plane Pilot, ER Visitor, and a police detective ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/64 "2011-07-26T01:49:10Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > but it could very easily come across as phony enthusiasm. It’s funny you worded it like this. When we first hear the PT guy encouraging Hank, I was waiting for Hank to say “Could you stop talking like a douche for 3 seconds” What I found really interesting was how he reamed out Marie last week when she mentioned that he ‘broke new ground’ yet this week when I assume he probably made about the same amount of progress we see that he was actually pretty fucking proud of himself. He was just acting that way around her. ---
**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/65 "2011-07-26T02:06:16Z")
The whole “Walt showing up at Gus’ home to kill him” was bit much. I get that Walt’s a bit out of his element here, but I have a hard time believing he’d be that stupid. What exactly was his plan? Did he think that there was no security system? No cameras? Did he think Gus would be the one to answer the door? Did he think that Gus would be alone in there? That there would be no witnesses? ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/66 "2011-07-26T02:53:18Z")
> [@emcee2k](#): > > The whole “Walt showing up at Gus’ home to kill him” was bit much. I get that Walt’s a bit out of his element here, but I have a hard time believing he’d be that stupid. What exactly was his plan? > > Did he think that there was no security system? No cameras? Did he think Gus would be the one to answer the door? Did he think that Gus would be alone in there? That there would be no witnesses? I agree that it was very stupid of him. If he hadn’t been stopped by Mike’s phone call, he had very little chance of success. Even an average person with no particular reason to fear for their safety would be very weary to answer the door for an unannounced person knocking in the middle of the night. No way would Gus have just opened the door unarmed and unprepared for the worst. (And he’d certainly have something much better than a snubnose revolver!) And even if he didn’t suspect Walt’s murderous intentions, there’s no way he wouldn’t have been extremely pissed at him for coming to his house under the circumstances. He’d likely refuse to open the door for anyone, especially Walter. Then, it would only have served to heighten his suspicion, complicating any future plans. It was definitely up there on the list of dumbass things that Heisenberg has done. ---
**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/67 "2011-07-26T03:22:38Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > With places like bars and convenience stores, can’t you keep track of their earning capacity by counting the number of supplies they sell? > > For a decent money laundering operation you would need something that sells services instead of goods. That way no one would know how many sales you’ve made unless they sit outside your business all day and count. Wow. You seem to know a lot about money laundering. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![jellyblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jellyblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jellyblue)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/68 "2011-07-26T04:35:47Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Marie is totally going to bang the physical therapy dude by season’s end. Or the UPS guy. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/69 "2011-07-26T06:08:22Z")
> [@kenetic](#): > > Giancarlo Esposito was still listed in the credits for last night’s episode, but I suppose if the producers were planning a twist of this magnitude they’d be careful not to telegraph it. I think he’s a regular who gets credited whether he has scenes or not. MItte was credited too and I don’t recall seeing him. ---
**Author:** ![genXmalcontent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8baadc/32.png) [@genXmalcontent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/genXmalcontent)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/70 "2011-07-26T06:35:21Z")
> [@CJJ](#): > > Complete speculation here, but what if Mike has already killed Gus and quietly taken over the operation? That would neatly explain the timing of his call to Walt (he was is Gus’s house) and that bit of dried blood Mike cleaned off his cuff in the open. It’s also possible to read his comment “You’ll never see Gus again” and the scare-him-off beatdown in the bar as concealing something more sinister. > > It’s a crazy idea, and I’m not sure I buy it yet. But if true, it’s to Mike’s advantage to have Walt and Jesse think Gus is still alive… Oh man, that is an excellent view of that situation. I will have to go back and check what Mike was wearing during the Victor neck slit. And if he was even close enough to get splattered. All 3 of them were shown to be pretty shaken this episode. I like your call. ---
**Author:** ![genXmalcontent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8baadc/32.png) [@genXmalcontent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/genXmalcontent)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/71 "2011-07-26T06:41:31Z")
> [@Daedelus](#): > > I certainly hope so, because his (to me) completely unwarranted emotional abuse of her is getting out of hand. I honestly can’t recall anything that she’s done or said (I know she had a bit of kleptomania in earlier seasons) recently that justifies him acting like such an ass. More than likely, it’s a lot of marital issues that have been magnified due to his condition, but that doesn’t mean he gets to have a 24/7 pity party and be a complete dick to the woman who loves him enough to wipe his ass and clean out his bedpan every day. > > On the other hand, I got chills watching Jesse break down after his party was over. Just magnificent acting. Very excited about the rest of this season. He’s always been kind of of douche bag towards her. i think the difference here is that she let it slide in the past because he was always so strong and protected her. A kind of codependent relationship. With him unable to fill that role, the weird balance is gone from that fragile kind of setup. She now must be the protector, the strong one and he can’t cope and she doesn’t want that role. Just my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/72 "2011-07-26T07:13:31Z")
> [@jellyblue](#): > > Or the UPS guy. Or if they really want to complicate the plot she’ll bang Gus and Jesse. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/73 "2011-07-26T07:18:17Z")
At the same time? Some tension in that scene. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/74 "2011-07-26T12:31:09Z")
> [@jellyblue](#): > > Or the UPS guy. I think the plot is definitely heading in this direction. Showing the unintended collateral consequences (like the plane crash) of Walt’s actions. And it would be hard to blame Marie. Did anything ever come of Marie’s kleptomania side plot from several seasons ago? ---
**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/75 "2011-07-26T12:34:10Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > MItte was credited too and I don’t recall seeing him. He appears when Skylar’s on the phone with Walt. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/76 "2011-07-26T12:51:03Z")
Marie is treating Hank like the child she so desperately wants and will probably never have, unless she gets knocked up by the PT guy or someone else. Though from PT guy’s reaction to her veiled come on, he doesn’t seem very interested (and probably gets hit on by the wives of his clients quite often). ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/77 "2011-07-26T13:06:53Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Marie is treating Hank like the child she so desperately wants and will probably never have, unless she gets knocked up by the PT guy or someone else. Though from PT guy’s reaction to her veiled come on, he doesn’t seem very interested (and probably gets hit on by the wives of his clients quite often). I didn’t think she was coming on to him? Are you talking about asking him to come on full time? To me that was because she saw how happy Hank was when he was around and she knew (especially based on that high five he gave her) how nasty/pissy/self-loathing he would be as soon as PT guy left. Though I’m not sure if she wants him around because Hank is happy when he’s there or if she wants him around on based on the thought that the more he’s there the sooner Hank will be back to normal. Either way, I think she’s just trying to save her marriage. But if you think she was coming on to him, he could be considered another version of old Hank. He’s big, tall, muscular, energetic, happy, helps people (and he’s in the medical field, Marie is a nurse IIRC) ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/78 "2011-07-26T15:17:03Z")
> [@CJJ](#): > > Complete speculation here, but what if Mike has already killed Gus and quietly taken over the operation? That would neatly explain the timing of his call to Walt (he was is Gus’s house) and that bit of dried blood Mike cleaned off his cuff in the open. It’s also possible to read his comment “You’ll never see Gus again” and the scare-him-off beatdown in the bar as concealing something more sinister. > > It’s a crazy idea, and I’m not sure I buy it yet. But if true, it’s to Mike’s advantage to have Walt and Jesse think Gus is still alive… Interesting idea. I like it. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/79 "2011-07-26T15:20:51Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Marie is totally going to bang the physical therapy dude by season’s end. I think it was made obvious that she was at least interested. Whether or not she’d really do it or he’d go for it remains to be seen. What could happen instead is that Hank could pick up on it and freak out at either Marie or the therapy guy, or both. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212/80 "2011-07-26T15:25:43Z")
> [@wedgehed](#): > > Good point. What does Walt think will happen if he takes Gus out? It’s not like Walt is trying to leave the business is it? Wouldn’t Walt have to find another distributor - who may be even worse than Gus? I think Walt is simply concentrating on survival at this point. He’ll worry about business after he assures his own survival. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-02-thirty-eight-snub-7-24/590212.md?page=5)