# Breaking Bad 4.04 "Bullet Points" 8/7 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 8, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885 "2011-08-08T00:39:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/61 "2011-08-09T00:39:56Z")
> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#): > > Walt, Jr. is completely useless as a character. They should have him act out at school or something, anything. If he disappeared, would anyone notice? Your post just made me think of something for Walt Jr. that would be interesting… How do you think Walt and Skyler would react to him experimenting with or becoming addicted to (blue) meth? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![clarkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@clarkstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clarkstar)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/62 "2011-08-09T01:03:31Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I was thinking the same thing. Mike couldn’t ride every shipment and if they had an armed guard in each one then surely Mike is too important to use as one of them. > > So they must have had a tip and been expecting this, right? But if they were expecting something like that wouldn’t they have had more than just one armed man or, at the very least, wouldn’t he have had more than a hand gun? It didn’t make a lot of sense to me. and wouldnt he have turned off the lantern? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/63 "2011-08-09T01:32:54Z")
> [@nivlac](#): > > If you haven’t seen it already you should check out the [Gale Boetticher Case File](http://www.amctv.com/shows/breaking-bad/gale-boetticher-case-file) on the BB website. You can see the complete video, all the photos, and lots of other stuff. Among the stuff in the evidence is Anyone know what language the subtitles in that video are? Are they even a real language? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/64 "2011-08-09T01:34:34Z")
I bet it’s klingon. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/65 "2011-08-09T01:35:17Z")
> [@kenetic](#): > > Walt Jr. is actually the major player behind everything in the show. He’s totally manipulating everyone so he’ll be in a position to take down Gus, the cartel, and anyone else in the way of him becoming the uncontested kingpin of the North American drug trade. The last shot of the series finale will be Walter, Jr slowly walking away, the camera focused only on his legs, as he drops the crutches to the sides and his limp disappears. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/66 "2011-08-09T01:46:48Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I bet it’s klingon. The exact same thought crossed my mind so I googled “Klingon Alphabet”. [http://www.omniglot.com/writing/klingon.htm](http://www.omniglot.com/writing/klingon.htm) I don’t think it’s that. ---
**Author:** ![Scribble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scribble/32/3317_2.png) [@Scribble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scribble)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/67 "2011-08-09T01:46:58Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Anyone know what language the subtitles in that video are? Are they even a real language? That’s a real language. It’s Thai. Which strikes me as kind of interesting, since, IME, karaoke subtitles are usually in Korean, not Thai. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/68 "2011-08-09T01:48:43Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Anyone know what language the subtitles in that video are? Are they even a real language? It’s Thai script. Beyond that I’m not sure. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/69 "2011-08-09T01:51:26Z")
> [@Scribble](#): > > That’s a real language. It’s Thai. > > Which strikes me as kind of interesting, since, IME, karaoke subtitles are usually in Korean, not Thai. Why? I haven’t done karaoke so I couldn’t say but why would they be in Korean unless it’s recorded in Korea? Given the Thai subtitles, I would have assumed that he recorded it in Thailand. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/70 "2011-08-09T01:52:30Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > The last shot of the series finale will be Walter, Jr slowly walking away, the camera focused only on his legs, as he drops the crutches to the sides and his limp disappears. I think it will end with him looking at blue snow falling in a snowglobe that’s a promotion from Pollos Hermanos. You’ll find out in addition to having CP he’s autistic, and his dad Walt Sr. is getting off duty as a fast food clerk whose teenaged boss (Jesse) is going off on him. OR It will end with Walt being shot. The screen goes black. Then a bedside light comes on and Bryan Cranston says “Honey… wake up! I just had the wildest dream!” A lamp is turned on at the other side of the bed as Jane Kaczmarek says “Go back to sleep Hal, I’m not in the mood!” ---
**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/71 "2011-08-09T01:53:23Z")
I think the reason the whole story about Walt having a gambling “addiction” and being “terribly, terribly ashamed” doesn’t make sense because Skylar wrote it. She’s just taking what she wants to hear him say about cooking meth (and nonstop lying) and swapping in gambling. I don’t see why Gus and Co. wouldn’t just kill Jesse and make it look like an overdose. Sure, Walt may wonder a little, but there’s hardly anything suspicious about an out of control drug addict dying from a drug overdose. My guess for the start of the next episode (having purposely not watched any previews): Walt is going to start tearing apart the lab in front of the camera until someone comes in and addresses his concerns. ---
**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/72 "2011-08-09T02:03:32Z")
> [@emcee2k](#): > > I think the reason the whole story about Walt having a gambling “addiction” and being “terribly, terribly ashamed” doesn’t make sense because Skylar wrote it. She’s just taking what she wants to hear him say about cooking meth (and nonstop lying) and swapping in gambling. On the contrary, I think the credibility of Skyler’s gambling fiction hinges on Walt being ashamed of the addiction. She not only has to explain how they can afford to purchase the car wash, but also why Walt had his “fugue” state and why he was distant and confrontational after his cancer went into remission. Then, of course, it also explains why they were entering into divorce proceedings and why Walt can never play cards again. ---
**Author:** ![Prox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@Prox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prox)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/73 "2011-08-09T02:47:13Z")
Yes, being ashamed explains all that, but there’s no credible reason for Walter for being ashamed in the first place. He used his skills to come up with a new systems to win at Blackjack and cleaned up. Who would be ashamed at that? [QUOTE=emcee2k] I think the reason the whole story about Walt having a gambling “addiction” and being “terribly, terribly ashamed” doesn’t make sense because Skylar wrote it. [/quote] Heh, that reminds me of when in the first or second episode, Sklyar telling Marie that she was writing a book but was having trouble finding a publisher. The point that Skylar was just writing lines she wanted Walt to really feel makes sense. And of course, Walt’s changes are all about him getting to say what he really feels. Ultimately, the story Skylar made up is getting pretty convoluted. Better to keep the story vague, yet plausible so that others could supply the details themselves. After all, if they ever get to the point where Hank is looking deeply into their story, the screwed whether it holds together or not. ---
**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/74 "2011-08-09T03:31:04Z")
> [@Prox](#): > > Yes, being ashamed explains all that, but there’s no credible reason for Walter for being ashamed in the first place. He used his skills to come up with a new systems to win at Blackjack and cleaned up. Who would be ashamed at that? He gambled their life savings without Skyler’s knowledge, and lost most of it, according to the story, before he made it back; he lied to his family about where he was and what he was doing; his actions broke up his family. All of it because of his “gambling addiction.” What reasonable person wouldn’t be ashamed? ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/75 "2011-08-09T03:33:21Z")
I kept thinking if Walt really wants this lie to work, forget the dialogue, be silent and make the other people uncomfortable. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/76 "2011-08-09T04:48:27Z")
So, Mike worked for Saul and also for Gus and that’s how Saul hooked up Walt and Gus- is that right? Or did he work for Saul and then defect to Gus? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/77 "2011-08-09T04:56:11Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > The last shot of the series finale will be Walter, Jr slowly walking away, the camera focused only on his legs, as he drops the crutches to the sides and his limp disappears. and like that…he’s gone. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/78 "2011-08-09T05:20:40Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > So, Mike worked for Saul and also for Gus and that’s how Saul hooked up Walt and Gus- is that right? Or did he work for Saul and then defect to Gus? I figured it was always Gus and then some work for Saul as freelance. But yeah, I think that’s how Saul got Walt in contact with Gus. ---
**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/79 "2011-08-09T06:52:08Z")
This episode’s opening just brings me back to the same question I’ve had since the middle of Season 3. What’s the cartel trying to do? If they are trying to take out Gus, he doesn’t seem that well-protected. New Victor is watching Jesse or Walt. Mike’s a truck sentry. So Gus should be alone in the open working the register at Los Pollos. If they’re just sending a message, what is it and what’s the point? ---
**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/80 "2011-08-09T07:05:14Z")
> [@nivlac](#): > > If you haven’t seen it already you should check out the [Gale Boetticher Case File](http://www.amctv.com/shows/breaking-bad/gale-boetticher-case-file) on the BB website. > [/spoiler] So the notebook reveals that the lab is situated near a laundry and that the entry is from above, and that forklift could be used for transport. That should rule out small laundromats within the city and narrow focus on industrial laundry facilities nearby. Hmm. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885.md?page=5)