# Breaking Bad 4.04 "Bullet Points" 8/7 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 8, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885 "2011-08-08T00:39:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![nivlac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@nivlac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nivlac)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/101 "2011-08-09T20:45:00Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > It will end with Walt being shot. The screen goes black. Then a bedside light comes on and Bryan Cranston says “Honey… wake up! I just had the wildest dream!” A lamp is turned on at the other side of the bed as Jane Kaczmarek says “Go back to sleep Hal, I’m not in the mood!” Good one! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![nivlac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@nivlac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nivlac)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/102 "2011-08-09T20:55:08Z")
> [@McDeath\_the\_Mad](#): > > I predict that the last episode (or second to last) of the season will finally have Hank figuring out Walt is Heisenburg. Hank will confide with Walt that he knows everything. > > Walt will confide with Mike or Gus, and Hank will get whacked. Walt will then have one more death on his conscience. > > MtM I seriously doubt that either Mike or Gus will make it to the end of the series. Walter will last until the last episode, but his end is not in doubt. Either the cancer will take him or he’ll die for breaking bad. That’s the overriding theme in the show – no one gets away with anything; a price will ultimately be paid. With that in mind, the ones who look good to the end are Hank and Jr. based on their actions up to now. ---
**Author:** ![CJJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecc23a/32.png) [@CJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJJ)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/103 "2011-08-09T22:16:06Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > (Breaking Bad) is spectacularly good in every meaningful respect, but most prominently because it is **so** consistently well written, without any fakery, plot holes, Ozian (as in no looking behind the curtain) requirements at all. It is incredibly intelligent, plausible, and fucking brilliant. > \<…\> > Breaking Bad…has gotten progressively better and stronger with each of its three seasons, even as the story became more outrageous and its main character less forgivable. I’m not sure you can have a series “without any plotholes” and “incredibly plausible”, yet also have the story become “more outrageous”. I think if you scratch those earlier seasons enough, you’ll find similar plot holes. The reason they’re more noticeable now is that the series has gotten bogged down through the first four episodes of season 4, and the mind wanders as the scenes become more mundane. ---
**Author:** ![paulbunyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@paulbunyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulbunyan)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/104 "2011-08-09T22:27:19Z")
So the fingerprint plus Victor left his car at the scene will be the explanation for the message. Do you think Jesse will ever figure out that Victor left his car there and tell Hank? ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/105 "2011-08-09T23:02:54Z")
Victor’s car doesn’t have to be a plot point, does it? The car might have already been moved. Gus and Mike don’t leave loose ends. ---
**Author:** ![clarkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@clarkstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clarkstar)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/106 "2011-08-09T23:10:06Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > And [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_QocNpae44) of course. misdirection imo ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/107 "2011-08-10T00:30:28Z")
Does anyone else think that the fingerprint from the crime scene will turn out to be Gus’? We saw every moment that Jesse and Victor were at the scene and they didn’t touch anything. Gus was the only other person to visit that apartment and he spent a considerable amount of time there. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/108 "2011-08-10T00:32:51Z")
> [@CJJ](#): > > I’m not sure you can have a series “without any plotholes” and “incredibly plausible”, yet also have the story become “more outrageous”. Why not? Do you think real life is never outrageous? Do you think the lives of real murderers and drug dealers are not outrageous? > [@](#): > > I think if you scratch those earlier seasons enough, you’ll find similar plot holes. The reason they’re more noticeable now is that the series has gotten bogged down through the first four episodes of season 4, and the mind wanders as the scenes become more mundane. Well, since I have been riveted to every word, that explanation doesn’t hold up. There appears to be a certain segment of the fan base that experiences this the way I used to experience soap opera, just chewing through storylines. I am not part of the “speed things up” contingent, because I savor it all, and I’ve been savoring the build- not only because I am extremely entertained, but because it makes sense to me. Once Mike let Walt know that there wasn’t going to be any plotting against Gus, it would have been weird to jump to some action packed plot advancement an episode later. This is the logical reality that follows from what’s already happened: Walt is waiting for the other shoe to drop, meanwhile, we are exploring Hank and Marie, Jesse, and Skylar’s paths, all of which needed time to develop in order to be believable. I think the writers have (overall) been incredible this season, as always, and especially because they didn’t give in to any temptation or demand for cramming a bunch of exciting stuff in really quickly that would have actually felt unnatural in the circumstances. I have watched the first three seasons very closely together (in 48 hours the first time) and multiple times, and frankly I don’t understand what people think is so very different this season anyway. It’s not like every episode was racing forward and bursting with big new plot developments in the past, so why would they now? ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/109 "2011-08-10T05:32:14Z")
> [@nivlac](#): > > If you haven’t seen it already you should check out the [Gale Boetticher Case File](http://www.amctv.com/shows/breaking-bad/gale-boetticher-case-file) on the BB website. You can see the complete video, all the photos, and lots of other stuff. Among the stuff in the evidence is > a single finger print! Who can it belong to? Also one of the reports does mention that the main suspect is Hispanic/Latino (that’s why Victor had to go), and another report says that there could be another Caucasian man at the scene who left in a late model dark car. So there’s enough info to look for someone else besides Victor. The plot thickens. It’s awesome that they would devote so much resources to this. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/110 "2011-08-10T05:45:04Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > So let’s just work with that for one second. Assuming that’s the case, how involved will Skylar be at that point? Will she be the Carmella Soprano? Loving the money, helps out a little, but turns a blind eye to where it actually comes from and has no idea about Walt’s involvement in Hank’s death (though she might suspect it). > Or will they be a team and she’ll agree with Walt that Hank needs to be pushing daisies? That is exactly the darkness this show is exploring. ---
**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/111 "2011-08-12T03:22:31Z")
There’s an exclusive preview for the next episode, “Shotgun,” on IMDb. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/112 "2011-08-12T07:43:18Z")
> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#): > > There’s an exclusive preview for the next episode, “Shotgun,” on IMDb. Ahem. Poor form, sir, poor form. LInk??? ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/113 "2011-08-12T13:52:53Z")
I don’t remember Gus being at Gale’s apartment. When was that, and what did he do while there? ---
**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/114 "2011-08-12T13:57:55Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > Ahem. Poor form, sir, poor form. LInk??? Sorry, I’m on my phone. Gus interviewed Gale in Gale’s apartment about wether he was ready to replace Walt yet. ---
**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/115 "2011-08-12T14:02:20Z")
> [@singular1](#): > > I don’t remember Gus being at Gale’s apartment. When was that, and what did he do while there? It was in Season 3. Gus comes to Gale to ask him how soon he could take over from Walt, if needed. Gus however frames it as just a question over Walt’s cancer, not anything else that’s been going on. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/116 "2011-08-12T14:18:32Z")
Ah, yes. Now I remember. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Yaxche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8dc957/32.png) [@Yaxche](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yaxche)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/117 "2011-08-12T15:34:58Z")
Crackpot theory time… If indeed the karaoke subtitles were in Thai, any chance Gale is seedier than we took him for? A sex tourist or kiddy diddler or something. He seemed a little to eager to work in a meth lab, maybe he’s got warrants or needs the money for something dark like that. Making him less likeable within the confines of the story might help Jesse, too. What if Mike was taking him out to show what a reprehensible person he shot… ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/118 "2011-08-12T15:40:14Z")
> [@Yaxche](#): > > Crackpot theory time… > > If indeed the karaoke subtitles were in Thai, any chance Gale is seedier than we took him for? > > A sex tourist or kiddy diddler or something. He seemed a little to eager to work in a meth lab, maybe he’s got warrants or needs the money for something dark like that. > > Making him less likeable within the confines of the story might help Jesse, too. What if Mike was taking him out to show what a reprehensible person he shot… I actually really like this theory. At some point, Gale began “breaking bad” himself. What led him to end up working for Gus? I don’t need his entire story, but something dark like that coming out wouldn’t surprise me at all. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/119 "2011-08-12T15:53:18Z")
Blasphemy. Gale is awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885/120 "2011-08-12T15:56:37Z")
I was wondering how Gale wound up in a meth lab. How did Gus come across him to begin with? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-04-bullet-points-8-7/591885.md?page=7)