# Breaking Bad 4.08 "Hermanos" 9/4

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 5, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213 "2011-09-05T03:05:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/41 "2011-09-06T01:00:24Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> I laughed out loud at Skyler trying to hide the money in her dress bags, only to have the rod in the closet break under the weight of all the money.

Along those lines … there seemed to be a brief shot of plastic bags of money lying in the crawl space under the White’s house. Can anyone confirm that’s what that was?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/42 "2011-09-06T01:05:40Z")

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> [@Bytegeist](#):
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> Along those lines … there seemed to be a brief shot of plastic bags of money lying in the crawl space under the White’s house. Can anyone confirm that’s what that was?

I was under the impression those were the same ones she was trying to hang in the closet and just gave up and threw them in the crawlspace.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/43 "2011-09-06T01:17:42Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> I laughed out loud at Skyler trying to hide the money in her dress bags, only to have the rod in the closet break under the weight of all the money.

Here’s the music they were playing behind that scene. One of my favorites.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vK2gwtKNQZo/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-BIAC4AOKAgwIABABGEcgRihZMA8=&rs=AOn4CLBzvN41qfxOq9W6d6uMKTzEvL8jrA "Os Grilos 45rpm - Walter Wanderley") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK2gwtKNQZo)

Os Grilos 45rpm - Walter Wanderley

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/44 "2011-09-06T03:12:55Z")

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I just watched this ep again, and something bothers me. At the end of the scene with Eladio and Gus and his now dead partner, Eladio tells him “the only reason you’re alive and he’s not is because I know who you are. . .but you’re not in Chile anymore.” Why would knowing who he is preclude his murder? Why kill the chemist, who could be of use to Eladio? I don’t understand this, unless there is some family relationship between Eladio and Gustavo that we don’t know about yet.

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**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/45 "2011-09-06T03:40:47Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I just watched this ep again, and something bothers me. At the end of the scene with Eladio and Gus and his now dead partner, Eladio tells him “the only reason you’re alive and he’s not is because I know who you are. . .but you’re not in Chile anymore.” Why would knowing who he is preclude his murder? Why kill the chemist, who could be of use to Eladio? I don’t understand this, unless there is some family relationship between Eladio and Gustavo that we don’t know about yet.

Perhaps Gus has connections to important/dangerous people from his time in Chile. Hence, Eladio, knowing that Gus had connections, did not kill him for fear of what might happen. But he also reminded Gus that, not being in Chile anymore, he wasn’t as powerful as he used to be.

In other words: “You’re lucky that killing you could hurt me but don’t push your luck.”

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/46 "2011-09-06T04:24:40Z")

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> [@Tarwater](#):
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> That was a meditation technique, not twitchy fingers.

Do tell more - I was sure it was a nervous tic.

> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> And I think we learned in an earlier episode that Gus was a generalissimo in a Chilean junta.

Really? Once again, I miss a significant point while watching a TV show.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/47 "2011-09-06T04:24:42Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I just watched this ep again, and something bothers me. At the end of the scene with Eladio and Gus and his now dead partner, Eladio tells him “the only reason you’re alive and he’s not is because I know who you are. . .but you’re not in Chile anymore.” Why would knowing who he is preclude his murder? Why kill the chemist, who could be of use to Eladio? I don’t understand this, unless there is some family relationship between Eladio and Gustavo that we don’t know about yet.

We know Gus was rich in Chile because he rescued his partner from the slums and paid for his education. Gus obviously comes from a very wealthy and powerful family. If Eladio killed Gus, they would get revenge.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/48 "2011-09-06T05:18:56Z")

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Easter Egg: Gus said he named the scholarship for Maximino Arciniega, who is the actor who played Krazy 8.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/49 "2011-09-06T05:36:38Z")

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> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#):
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> Easter Egg: Gus said he named the scholarship for Maximino Arciniega, who is the actor who played Krazy 8.

[Exposing my ignorance] Who is Krazy 8?

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/50 "2011-09-06T05:42:57Z")

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> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#):
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> [Exposing my ignorance] Who is Krazy 8?

He is a character from Season 1. I believe he was Walt’s first murder.

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**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/51 "2011-09-06T12:08:36Z")

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The vato Walt strangled in Jesse’s basement with the the bike lock.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/52 "2011-09-06T14:20:54Z")

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> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#):
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> Easter Egg: Gus said he named the scholarship for Maximino Arciniega, who is the actor who played Krazy 8.

> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#):
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> [Exposing my ignorance] Who is Krazy 8?

> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#):
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> He is a character from Season 1. I believe he was Walt’s first murder.

Anybody want to bet that we _won’t_ get a reference to Keyser Soze somewhere between now and the end of BB?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/53 "2011-09-06T17:12:22Z")

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> [@Washoe](#):
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> The vato Walt strangled in Jesse’s basement with the the bike lock.

Leading to one of the best Walt:Jesse exchanges.

Walt: We need a middle man distributor.  
Jesse: I had one… you choked him to death with a bike lock.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/54 "2011-09-06T17:18:24Z")

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I liked another exchange between Walter and Jesse. Walter said something about how they would need a lawyer, and Jesse said (paraphrased), “We don’t need a criminal lawyer, we need a _criminal_ lawyer” meaning one willing to go beyond the law.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/55 "2011-09-06T22:22:04Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I liked another exchange between Walter and Jesse. Walter said something about how they would need a lawyer, and Jesse said (paraphrased), “We don’t need a criminal lawyer, we need a _criminal_ lawyer” meaning one willing to go beyond the law.

And he was right. Without Saul they’d probably have been dead and buried in the desert long ago.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/56 "2011-09-06T22:41:11Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Leading to one of the best Walt:Jesse exchanges.
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> Walt: We need a middle man distributor.  
> Jesse: I had one… you choked him to death with a bike lock.

And he totally had it coming to him, too!

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/57 "2011-09-07T03:07:19Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> And he totally had it coming to him, too!

Indeed. I could overlook being a murderous meth dealer, but anybody who would sell extended service warranties on furniture kits needs killin’.

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**Author:** ![yoyodyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a9a28c/32.png) [@yoyodyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yoyodyne)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/58 "2011-09-07T03:20:52Z")

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Was Eladio the guy that was killed in the Mexican police raid on the house?

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**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/59 "2011-09-07T03:44:29Z")

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> [@yoyodyne](#):
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> Was Eladio the guy that was killed in the Mexican police raid on the house?

In the episode I think you’re thinking of, the guy on the phone with Gus was [Bolsa](http://breakingbad.wikia.com/wiki/Juan_Bolsa).

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-08-hermanos-9-4/595213/60 "2011-09-07T16:54:52Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> And he was right. Without Saul they’d probably have been dead and buried in the desert long ago.

In fact, Jesse is almost _always_ shown to be right when he counsels caution - every time Walt ignores his advice, it ends badly.

Walt is probably smarter than Jesse - but if I had to choose one as a business partner, I’d pick Jesse every time. When he’s not using, he’s smart and has good sense.

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