# Breaking Bad 4.10 "Salud" 9/18 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 19, 2011, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775 "2011-09-19T02:13:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/61 "2011-09-20T01:07:19Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Jesse shooting the Cartel guard was a lot like the way he shoots zombies in video games. Of course, that was his training. šŸ™‚ Now we know why they chose to show those scenes earlier in the season. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/62 "2011-09-20T01:21:17Z")
The only thing that distracted me was Don Eladio ā€“ same guy from the flashback? Or his near-identical looking son? Because that flashback was like 30 years ago. Hector became ancient, young Gus grayed, but Eladio looks the same. Younger, even. He should be in his 50s-60s I would think. ---
**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/63 "2011-09-20T01:26:11Z")
The flashback was twenty years ago. Vince commented in the podcast that their make-up department made Bauer ten years younger for the flashback and ten years old for this most recent episode, but since heā€™s such a naturally attractive fellow, itā€™s difficult to tell. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/64 "2011-09-20T01:53:03Z")
Iā€™m surprised no oneā€™s mentioned the line from Skyler to Walt Jr. this episode: ā€œSince itā€™s almost noon, I think your first big birthday decision is: breakfast or lunch?ā€ It _almost_ felt like the writers read the SDMB and were making a self-deprecating in-joke. ---
**Author:** ![jonrawlins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@jonrawlins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jonrawlins)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/65 "2011-09-20T02:11:26Z")
> [@Dogzilla](#): > > I also thought it was sweet that Gus tried to comfort Jesse twice while they were enroute. First, when he said ā€œYou can do this.ā€ and again later, there was a shot of Gus gently tapping Jesseā€™s hand ā€“ a comforting gesture. > > I think he didnā€™t excuse himself to the restroom immediately for plausibility. If heā€™d done the shot and ran right off to the restroom, the jig would have been up and that might have given the cartel guys enough time to purge. I think he was already feeling the effects a bit poolside. He must have known the cartel guys were about to start dropping like flies and excused himself as soon as seemed reasonable. I thought heā€™d decided to sacrifice himself, but now that doesnā€™t make sense. Without Gus, there would be no reason to kill off the cartel. Heā€™d have simply sold Mike and Jesse to them and that would be that. No, Gus _had_ to live. I think the pills Gus took were something like charcoal pills or possibly the antidote to the poison. They could also have been pills that you ingest to help make you throw up later. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/66 "2011-09-20T02:14:26Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Iā€™m surprised no oneā€™s mentioned the line from Skyler to Walt Jr. this episode: > > ā€œSince itā€™s almost noon, I think your first big birthday decision is: breakfast or lunch?ā€ > > It _almost_ felt like the writers read the SDMB and were making a self-deprecating in-joke. Ha- I thought the same thing! The scene with Walt crying and holding on to Jr. on the way back to bed really brought home to me how pathetic and weak he has become. I thought, ā€œOh, Walt. :(ā€ ---
**Author:** ![jonrawlins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@jonrawlins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jonrawlins)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/67 "2011-09-20T02:14:55Z")
> [@Washoe](#): > > What was the significance of Mike ripping the necklace from Don Eladioā€™s body? I think Gusā€™s plan is to bring the necklace to Hector for more torment. ---
**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/68 "2011-09-20T02:24:06Z")
> [@jonrawlins](#): > > I think the pills Gus took were something like charcoal pills ā€¦ I just now listened to the _Breaking Bad_ podcast for this episode, and ā€œcharcoal tabletsā€ are the very thing Vince Gilligan had in mind here. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/69 "2011-09-20T02:47:49Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > When he forced himself to puke, I assumed it was activated charcoal since itā€™s my understanding that you have to purge that after itā€™s absorbed the poison. Itā€™s not necessary to puke up activated charcoal; if someone does heave, theyā€™re heaving because itā€™s nasty stuff. Most just crap it out (which makes for a wonderful-looking toilet bowl). > [@Chefguy](#): > > And I would _love_ to see Skyler put a gun to her old bossā€™s head to make him sign a check! ā€œIt puts its name on the check, or it sees its brains blown blown out its neck!ā€ (paraphrasing): ā€œEither his signature or his brains will be on that check.ā€ Anyone have any clue as to how Jesseā€™s going to cross the border with two medically unstable passengers? Best exchange of the episode: ā€œI speak English.ā€ ā€œGood, then you know what ā€˜assholeā€™ means.ā€ mmm ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/70 "2011-09-20T03:21:14Z")
[QUOTE=Alice The Goon] The scene with Walt crying and holding on to Jr. on the way back to bed really brought home to me how pathetic and weak he has become. I thought, ā€œOh, Walt. :(ā€ [/QUOTE] Especially with Jr. having to put down one of his crutches to support him. (Mitteā€™s turning into a handsome young man, btw.) Iā€™m sure Gus has some sort of exit strategy- a getaway plane or a safe house or whatever. No idea whether Mexican CSI teams share info with U.S. CSI teams but Gus left his fingerprints all over that bathroom. Iā€™m sure Gus has some sort of exit strategy- a getaway plane or a safe house or whatever. No idea whether Mexican CSI teams share info with U.S. CSI teams but Gus left his fingerprints all over that bathroom. Would puking be for the worse if youā€™ve taken charcoal? Because it seems youā€™d puke up the charcoal as well. I looked up some info on highly desirable tequilas and there is apparently a market. There are some very famous peasant operated tequila distilleries where everything is still done by hand using clay vats, bamboo tubes, etc., and some of them put out literally a few dozen bottles per year and they sell for exorbitant amounts. If Gus came across one, had a duplicate bottle designed and then poisoned before it was sealed it could explain the gift and the how. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/71 "2011-09-20T06:04:29Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > Anyone have any clue as to how Jesseā€™s going to cross the border with two medically unstable passengers? The same way they came in, by private plane. Obviously the car was just for getting the hell away from that house - not for crossing the border. They can meet the plane anywhere now (but they might have to either see a doctor in Mexico first or arrange to have a doctor on board the plane when it comes to meet them. Neither of which should be a problem for Gus - he is a mega-rich drug czar, remember. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/72 "2011-09-20T12:14:53Z")
I canā€™t imagine Gus didnā€™t have a contingency plan in place, knowing heā€™d be drinking poison (despite the activated carbon), and creating a very dangerous situation. Heā€™s got a doctor hanging on a line, somewhere nearby. ---
**Author:** ![Post\_Miss\_Post](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Post\_Miss\_Post](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Post_Miss_Post)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/73 "2011-09-20T13:15:22Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > I canā€™t imagine Gus didnā€™t have a contingency plan in place, knowing heā€™d be drinking poison (despite the activated carbon), and creating a very dangerous situation. Heā€™s got a doctor hanging on a line, somewhere nearby. Completely agree. I was thinking about them rocking up at a Mexican hospital until I realised that thereā€™s probably and evac plan in place - plane, team of doctors, mobile medical unit with stomach-pumping capabilities. Did everyone else love it when Mike said to Jesse, ā€œWeā€™re either all going home or none of us areā€? Thatā€™s when I knew whatever was in the box was going to take the Cartel down. Although I had my suspicions as soon as I saw it. ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/74 "2011-09-20T13:26:37Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > Best exchange of the episode: > > ā€œI speak English.ā€ > ā€œGood, then you know what ā€˜assholeā€™ means.ā€ You left out the best part! ā€œGood, then you know what ā€˜assholeā€™ means ā€¦ asshole.ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/75 "2011-09-20T13:32:07Z")
> [@interface2x](#): > > You left out the best part! ā€œGood, then you know what ā€˜assholeā€™ means ā€¦ asshole.ā€ The _real_ best part was the oh-so subtle grin on Gusā€™ and Mikeā€™s face when Jessie hit his home run. Already mentioned, I know. I re-mention because, day-um, that may have been the finest scene in the entire series. mmm ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/76 "2011-09-20T13:58:50Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > (Mitteā€™s turning into a handsome young man, btw.) I think even solid heterosexual males like myself can comfortably acknowledge that heā€™s [already there.](http://tvdramawatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/RJMitte.jpg) mmm ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/77 "2011-09-20T14:01:40Z")
I was thinking about the scene in the Mexican lab. It was great, but Jesse could have played it just a _little_ cooler, and not been so excited at the 96% purity. Instead, he should have been, ā€œWell, it would have been better, except for the quality of your raw materials and the condition of your lab.ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Billy\_Baroo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/76d3ee/32.png) [@Billy\_Baroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billy_Baroo)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/78 "2011-09-20T15:02:23Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I was thinking about the scene in the Mexican lab. It was great, but Jesse could have played it just a _little_ cooler, and not been so excited at the 96% purity. Instead, he should have been, ā€œWell, it would have been better, except for the quality of your raw materials and the condition of your lab.ā€ Yep it was a gaffe. Thereā€™s nuance there - he hasnā€™t completely emerged from the chrysalis. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/79 "2011-09-20T15:17:12Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > The only thing that distracted me was Don Eladio ā€“ same guy from the flashback? Or his near-identical looking son? Because that flashback was like 30 years ago. Hector became ancient, young Gus grayed, but Eladio looks the same. Younger, even. He should be in his 50s-60s I would think. Eladio had silvering hair in the present, he was definitely given makeup to look older but if you look at Steven Bauer out of makeup heā€™s 54 and he is one of those guys at 54 who could easily pass as being in his early 40s maybe even mid-30s, so the makeup job to make him look like a man in his late 30s/early 40s wasnā€™t a stretch at all, but the job to make him look like a well preserved 60-something didnā€™t work quite as well because he looks like a younger man than he is at 54. ---
**Author:** ![Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hero_From_Sector_7G)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/80 "2011-09-20T16:11:52Z")
Great episode but this season is still a mess. Gus and Walt are both behaving contrary to their established characterization. Gus ā€œNever Trust a Junkyā€ is now BFF with Pinkman. Did we all forget about the last few episodes of the last season? Jessi went off on a crazy spree, went against direct orders from Gus, and generally really fucked things up. Oh then he killed Gale. Ok ok, so Gus can get over things and forgive people. If so, why the hell isnā€™t he forgiving Walt too? Waltā€™s primary malfunction was his devotion to Jessi. Soā€¦ Gus is cool with Jessi, but not the guy who tried to protect him? Further, Gus doesnā€™t need to provoke Walt or drive him and Jessi apart. Walt has demonstrated over and over that when pushed against a wall heā€™ll fight back. However, he is content to just cook. In this episode, Gusā€™ planning is a little wonky. If youā€™re taking a trip to Mexico under the pretense of showing off your chemistry, youā€™re gonna take a tool like Jessi? The events as happened were too Machiavellian for my taste. Procedure, while important in chemistry, is nothing without the equations. Jessi has procedure, but doesnā€™t know shit about the latter; see Waltā€™s speech earlier this season. The Cartel chemist would have given his upper people a similar speech and Gus would have been in deep shit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775.md?page=5)