# Breaking Bad 4.10 "Salud" 9/18 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 19, 2011, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775 "2011-09-19T02:13:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/121 "2011-09-22T00:10:04Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Where’s the baby these days? > [@Tarwater](#): > > She was eaten for breakfast. By the dingo, maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/122 "2011-09-22T00:22:33Z")
> [@kath94](#): > > Where’s Tiger? > > 😃 OMG, the actress who plays the baby got run over!? I wonder if there’s a Mrs. Gus. He’s mentioned that he has kids a couple of times (once in his “a man provides for his family even if they hate him” speech to Walt and then when he mentioned they wouldn’t try his Chilean fish stew) but we don’t know whether they’re little, grown or in-between. It would be almost impossible for him to keep his illegal activities secret from a wife, which makes me wonder if he’s married to a Cartel member’s relative. Perhaps Tio Hector is an in-law. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/123 "2011-09-22T03:39:29Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I wonder if there’s a Mrs. Gus. He’s mentioned that he has kids a couple of times (once in his “a man provides for his family even if they hate him” speech to Walt and then when he mentioned they wouldn’t try his Chilean fish stew) but we don’t know whether they’re little, grown or in-between. > > It would be almost impossible for him to keep his illegal activities secret from a wife, which makes me wonder if he’s married to a Cartel member’s relative. Perhaps Tio Hector is an in-law. Didn’t we decide a few episodes ago that Gus is probably gay? I forgot about the mention of kids - it surprises me a little since we’ve never seen them. They could be adopted though or he could have had a wife at one point for the sake of appearances. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/124 "2011-09-22T05:39:23Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Didn’t we decide a few episodes ago that Gus is probably gay? I forgot about the mention of kids - it surprises me a little since we’ve never seen them. They could be adopted though or he could have had a wife at one point for the sake of appearances. There’s always the possibility that he’s lying, too. ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/125 "2011-09-22T20:35:35Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Didn’t we decide a few episodes ago that Gus is probably gay? I forgot about the mention of kids - it surprises me a little since we’ve never seen them. They could be adopted though or he could have had a wife at one point for the sake of appearances. After the scenes with Max, I don’t think there’s any doubt that Gus is gay and revenge-driven. His obsessive pursuit of that revenge wouldn’t seem to leave much time to put a dummy wife and kids in place just for show, not to mention how that would put more people into the equation, and into danger for no real reason. I don’t think anyone would question that Mr. Fring is a lifelong bachelor. What do you guys think about the theory that Max was a junkie? He looked pretty wild-eyed and bloodshot in the first scene at Don Eladio’s, but I didn’t think of him being on the meth until I read it on the TWoP forums. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/126 "2011-09-23T14:13:31Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > Short of writing out the check herself and mailing it to the IRS, or sticking a gun to Ted’s head and saying, “Sign the fucking check,” what else was she to do? > > **Chef:** at least they gave RJ Mitte _something_ to do this episode other than eat and make some sarcastic quip. But I think it threw off the eps. pacing quite a bit. Skylar as the second coming of Ronnie Deutsch was a bit much for me. I doubt she’s had enough experience with the IRS to be able to lay out the whole scenario like she did. Even if she was just trying to scare him she came off as way too knowledgeable. I did like her as the ditzy bookkeeper though! ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/127 "2011-09-23T14:42:42Z")
> [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](#): > > Don’t be a deck. Don’t feed the ducks. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/128 "2011-09-23T14:54:07Z")
> [@Billy\_Baroo](#): > > C’mon now. GTFOOH. The Dream Team is advancing the story and racheting up the tension, sure, but the ongoing White family tragedy is what sets BB apart and keeps me riveted. Alienation, regret, fallible foible-ridden humanity - all depicted masterfully by Cranston et al. The scenes with Junior and Senior were fucking heartwrenching. I thought Walt had moved back home…what did I miss and when did I miss it? ---
**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/129 "2011-09-23T16:51:01Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > I thought Walt had moved back home…what did I miss and when did I miss it? There’s been no further discussion of it (on camera), but Walt certainly seems to be sticking with his condo for the time being. Walter and Skyler’s _rapprochement_ didn’t last long. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/130 "2011-09-23T16:56:58Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > After the scenes with Max, I don’t think there’s any doubt that Gus is gay and revenge-driven. His obsessive pursuit of that revenge wouldn’t seem to leave much time to put a dummy wife and kids in place just for show, not to mention how that would put more people into the equation, and into danger for no real reason. I don’t think anyone would question that Mr. Fring is a lifelong bachelor. It’s not established, just perhaps hinted at, and even if he is he also is a Hispanic drug lord and was a big shot under Pinochet, both of which have profiles that could benefit from a beard wife. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/131 "2011-09-23T18:51:55Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > I thought Walt had moved back home…what did I miss and when did I miss it? I think Walt got pissed off when Jr told him that “Mom said you could move back in.” He was already feeling emasculated by her at the moment and that kind of piled onto that feeling. He didn’t want her permission to move back into _his_ house. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/132 "2011-09-23T19:29:05Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > I think Walt got pissed off when Jr told him that “Mom said you could move back in.” He was already feeling emasculated by her at the moment and that kind of piled onto that feeling. He didn’t want her permission to move back into _his_ house. What Walt Jr. actually said was “mom said you were moving back in on Tuesday” or something equally definitive which conveyed the idea that it was a done deal, without having confirmed it that way with Walt himself. The net effect was close to what you describe, though, Walt resented her presumption, which was emasculating. ---
**Author:** ![Billy\_Baroo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/76d3ee/32.png) [@Billy\_Baroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billy_Baroo)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/133 "2011-09-23T20:47:23Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > I thought Walt had moved back home…what did I miss and when did I miss it? Post and username WIN. ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/134 "2011-09-23T22:15:42Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > I think Walt got pissed off when Jr told him that “Mom said you could move back in.” He was already feeling emasculated by her at the moment and that kind of piled onto that feeling. He didn’t want her permission to move back into _his_ house. You must have missed the “I’m the one who knocks” speech from Walt to Skyler. He laid it out for her when she expressed concern about his safety for the hundredth time, after they had been to Hank’s for dinner and Walt drunkenly told Hank that Gayle wasn’t Heisenberg, that he had the wrong guy. Walt put on a whole tough guy act that evidently didn’t impress Skyler too much because she pulled one of her disappearing acts for a few days (same day Walt bought the Charger for Jr). After she came home it was clear any headway they’d made in reconciliation was out the window. (Yeah I’m obsessed with BB, lol) ---
**Author:** ![Kaboodle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8edcca/32.png) [@Kaboodle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaboodle)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/135 "2011-09-24T06:35:25Z")
> [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](#): > > I still don’t get why Gus is deliberately stirring the pot with Walt and being BFF with Jesse. Sure sure, Machiavellian plan to drive Walt insane. Things always work out for Gus. Gus seems to be good with people. Whether it’s managing or manipulation, Gus knows his way around. You said it yourself, ‘Gus needs Walt’. Walt has consistently and repeatedly put himself on the line to protect Jesse. They come as a set, if he wants Walt he gets Jesse too. Gus doesn’t trust junkies. Despite his trying to help and be a friend to Jesse, he may not trust him in the slightest. But if you have to work with a junkie then give him a reason to stay sober. Give him a reason to take your side if his loyalty is tested. Give him a reason _not to kill you!_ (No, I don’t think that Gus knows). I’m no expert in dealing with people but it sounds reasonable to me. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/136 "2011-09-24T12:23:28Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > Skylar as the second coming of Ronnie Deutsch was a bit much for me. I doubt she’s had enough experience with the IRS to be able to lay out the whole scenario like she did. > > Even if she was just trying to scare him she came off as way too knowledgeable. > > I did like her as the ditzy bookkeeper though! Beside being late, I posted this to the wrong episode since I had to catch up with the last two just a couple days ago. Another thing…she mentioned Quicken rather than QuickBooks… the former is a personal finance software program and coldn’t possibly be used for the business. Of course, a real ditz could get the names mixed up. Skylar seems to have lost some of that weight she put on too. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/137 "2011-09-24T13:20:25Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > That’s Carlo Rota, who played a Russian-speaking British guy on _24_. > > He is actually a British guy of Italian descent. > > In the Canadian show _Little Mosque on the Prairie_, he plays a Lebanese-Canadian Muslim guy with a British accent. > > Here he’s playing a Mexican guy who speaks Spanish and English. > > Carlo Rota…Chameleon of our time! He was also on _La Femme Nikita_. And while I’m not going to even google it, I think he was supposed to have been of Irish descent on _24_, as his name was O’Brien (Chloe kept the name when they separated). ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/138 "2011-09-24T20:47:43Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > Beside being late, I posted this to the wrong episode since I had to catch up with the last two just a couple days ago. > > Another thing…she mentioned Quicken rather than QuickBooks… the former is a personal finance software program and coldn’t possibly be used for the business. Of course, a real ditz could get the names mixed up. > > Skylar seems to have lost some of that weight she put on too. They don’t have any accounting consultants on the show, that’s for sure. My fellow bookkeepers and I have all been puzzled since the whole thing came up in Season 2, because if you go back and listen to the conversation, Ted and Skyler are not talking about hiding income, they are talking about faking income. As for Skyler’s knowledge being unbelievable, I thought so too until I realized that she had just spent a lot of time educating herself on the subject of laundering money, which is all about the IRS, so it makes perfect sense that the topic is fresh and extensive in her mind. ---
**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/139 "2011-09-24T21:25:46Z")
According to the podcast, they did consult to a tax professional when writing the scene where Skyler masquerades as a blonde ditz. If I recall correctly, Vince Gilligan has an assistant whose mother works for the IRS in a similar capacity to the auditor who was investigating Beneke. Whether or not they were using a consultant for the previous season is a good question, though, and I agree that there’s some inconsistencies as to the type of fraud that’s happening. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775/140 "2011-09-24T21:46:05Z")
The White’s story is that Walt won a lot of money counting cards. Saul was able to find a house willing to fake these losses so it’ll look good if the authorities take a look. But wasn’t there something about a bank loan as well? Maybe I remember it being brought up as an idea and rejected, but wasn’t Walt or someone wringing his hands over why a bank would loan 800K to an unemployed couple? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-10-salud-9-18/596775.md?page=8)