# Breaking Bad 4/11/10 - OPEN SPOILERS

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 12, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810 "2010-04-12T04:09:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/1 "2010-04-12T04:09:39Z")

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“Green light” – green light means go!

For the life of me, I can’t figure out why Skyler seems so relaxed. If she’s still stressed, she’s doing a good job of hiding it. She acts like she has Walt over a barrel. But she did tense up a bit when Walt Jr. asked if dad could babysit. She doesn’t want Walt to have the baby, but I’m not sure even she knows why.

Disappointed that Jesse tried to turn the cashier on – dude does have a dark side, doesn’t he? The actress who played the cashier must be related to somebody – she was awful, something we haven’t seen in this show.

So the cousins are still after Walt, even after they were called off?

I like how Gus figured out how to keep Walt in the game, assuming that’s what he was doing by splitting the money.

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/2 "2010-04-12T04:14:21Z")

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> So the cousins are still after Walt, even after they were called off?

I am pretty sure it’s just scare tactics.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/3 "2010-04-12T04:16:10Z")

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But who are they trying to scare? Walt didn’t even notice the sign, and if he did, he might not connect it.

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/4 "2010-04-12T04:18:31Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> But who are they trying to scare? Walt didn’t even notice the sign, and if he did, he might not connect it.

They know Walt is being watched and the person that is watching him will know what it means and will inform Gus.

They couldn’t do that outside of Gus’s house or else that’d be a threat on _his_ life and that definitely wouldn’t go where they want it to.

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/5 "2010-04-12T05:26:57Z")

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That was a great dinner scene. Really happy family there. I think Skylar wasn’t tense because she just doesn’t care anymore. She’s just going with the flow, waiting till Walt dies, banging Ted on the side.

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**Author:** ![feelingnutsy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3e96dc/32.png) [@feelingnutsy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/feelingnutsy)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/6 "2010-04-12T06:00:29Z")

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Hi—new here—and just saw Greenlight—and have two questions—

1.I couldn’t understand what Saul said when he was talking to the  
client at the start.He put the horse collar on the guy and said you  
were in an accident—and then he says something I don’t understand.  
Did anyone hear this?

2.What was the one word that the guy said to Walt when he threw  
the money into Walt’s car at the end?

Major question—does Walt realize the danger he’s in?

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/7 "2010-04-12T06:13:46Z")

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> [@feelingnutsy](#):
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> Hi—new here—and just saw Greenlight—and have two questions—
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> 1.I couldn’t understand what Saul said when he was talking to the  
> client at the start.He put the horse collar on the guy and said you  
> were in an accident—and then he says something I don’t understand.  
> Did anyone hear this?
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> 2.What was the one word that the guy said to Walt when he threw  
> the money into Walt’s car at the end?
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> Major question—does Walt realize the danger he’s in?

Can’t answer 1.

1. Does he not say “Your half” to Walt also? Perhaps he said “Here!”?

2. I am pretty sure Walt is completely oblivious to the fact that he’s a major player in the meth scene and the danger such a reputation has brought to him.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/8 "2010-04-12T06:46:34Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> 1. Does he not say “Your half” to Walt also?

That’s what I heard.

Does anybody else notice the physical resemblance between Saul’s double-agent henchman and Walt? The henchman (I’m sure he has a name but I don’t remember it) is beefier and taller but he’s bald with the beginnings of a graying goatee like Walt. I wonder if this is coincidence, red herring, or something that will prove significant.

Is it wrong to like Gus? Last week I thought "you know you’re dealing with a badass when he meets with twin killers and two Mexican crime lords (even though Don Salamanca is a non-verbal invalid he obviously still has some power) and doesn’t even feel the need for bodyguards; it seems to be implicitly understood that “anything happens to me you guys are chicken nuggets”. This week you learn he doesn’t like to intimidate, and from the start he’s made it clear no junkies. He’s like the Sigma Six of the meth business.

What’s up with giving Walt half? I can’t quite figure his angle. I know he’s trying to play on the dissension twixt Walt and Jesse but not sure how this would do it.

Cool hearing Jesse discuss chemicals and chemical reactions like an old pro.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/9 "2010-04-12T09:48:17Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Does anybody else notice the physical resemblance between Saul’s double-agent henchman and Walt? The henchman (I’m sure he has a name but I don’t remember it) is beefier and taller but he’s bald with the beginnings of a graying goatee like Walt. I wonder if this is coincidence, red herring, or something that will prove significant.

I suspect that it _was_ coincidence, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it will prove significant. The script writers will certainly have picked up on it and will likely use to their advantage. From the whole thing with the airplane, we already know that the scriptwriters are fully willing to bend reality to serve their purpose so long it is _theoretically possible_. Placing a person in as a stand-in to take a blow simply because he happened to look a bit like the intended target is something I would see them being willing to do, and I can certainly see a need for such a thing to appear.

On the other hand, the henchman/PI guy is almost certainly the most sane and reasonable person in the whole show. Personally, I think he brings a handy mediating force to everyone when things start to go sideways, and it would be hard to find a new character to do that. He’s always quite an unexpected person to fill that role, given his position and the fact that he looks like an evil thug. I quite like him. It will be a shame and possibly detrimental to the show to get rid of him.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/10 "2010-04-12T13:49:18Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> What’s up with giving Walt half? I can’t quite figure his angle. I know he’s trying to play on the dissension twixt Walt and Jesse but not sure how this would do it.

All I can figure is that giving Walt more cash to launder keeps him in the game, even peripherally. We know that Walt’s so concerned about the quality of his product that he won’t let Jesse cook it on his own, but Gus doesn’t know that. Does he?

Saul’s henchman – his name is Mike, which I didn’t know either until I read Sepinwall – I hadn’t picked up on the resemblance. Isn’t he a lot shorter than Walt? Hard to tell.

I’m disappointed with Skyler. I was okay with her boinking Ted when I thought it was a one-off, to get Walt out of the house, but jeebus, an affair isn’t the way to resolve her situation.

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/11 "2010-04-12T16:43:32Z")

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> Is it wrong to like Gus

No it isn’t, he’s easily the most badass character on the show. I don’t care of the cousins end up killing everyone with their bare hands, Gus will still be more hardcore than they are.

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> What’s up with giving Walt half? I can’t quite figure his angle

I think Gus is hoping to irritate Jesse and have him end up saying to himself, “If I’m doing literally all the work and only getting paid 50%, I might as well convince Walt to get back in the game.”

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> Cool hearing Jesse discuss chemicals and chemical reactions like an old pro.

Agreed.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/12 "2010-04-12T17:03:21Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> But she did tense up a bit when Walt Jr. asked if dad could babysit. She doesn’t want Walt to have the baby, but I’m not sure even she knows why.

She knows why–because Walt is acting irrational, creepy, and weird.

Would you want to leave your baby daughter with a guy who tries to throw a potted tree through an office window? ESPECIALLY when it’s a reinforced office window! And consider the fact that he just got fired from his teaching job. I don’t know how it is in New Mexico, but in NJ, it is very hard to fire a tenured teacher. Someone has to screw up in a big way.

In addition, her spidey sense is tingling big time. She may not be consciously aware of it, but she’s put together the pieces well enough to know that Walt is into some really bad stuff at the moment.

> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Does anybody else notice the physical resemblance between Saul’s double-agent henchman and Walt? The henchman (I’m sure he has a name but I don’t remember it) is beefier and taller but he’s bald with the beginnings of a graying goatee like Walt. I wonder if this is coincidence, red herring, or something that will prove significant.

I’ll the fact that there are three bald white guys involved leads to some sort of mistaken identity situation. It would be interesting to know if having three bald characters was intentional.

And yeah, Mike is indeed likeable and reasonable. It’s such a funny show that way. It makes you like and respect guys like Mike and Gustavo, and makes you dislike a character like Skyler, who you’d expect to be likeable.

And for what it’s worth, I’m 99% okay with her boinking someone else. She’s done with the marriage. She’s told Walt. Walter Jr. knows. She’s initiated divorce proceedings. Walt is/was even out of the house. She’s a free agent. My 1% not-okay is only because she hasn’t formally filed for separation.

Others may have different ideas of when it becomes okay for a person in the process of a divorce to start sleeping with someone else, but the way I see it, Skylar’s in the clear.

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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/13 "2010-04-12T20:32:26Z")

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First the important news from the AMCTV Website:

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> Clear your schedules, Breaking Bad fans, because the crackerjack news team that brought you Indecision 2008 and Changefest '09 is taking on Walter White 2010. That’s right! Tonight (Mon., Apr. 12) at 11PM | 10C, Bryan Cranston will be making a guest appearance on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

Green Bean, Can you even file for a separation? I’ve never heard of that. Walt didn’t get fired from his job, he’s on indefinite sabbatical. My guess it was by mutual agreement with the school. He was already taking a lot of time off work.

The reason that Gus approved the deal with Jessie is to pull Walt back into the picture. Jessie gets pissed off that he did all the work but didn’t get all the money. Jessie thinks that Walt made a deal behind his back. When confronted about it, Walt says he didn’t make a backroom deal, but that’s irrelevant because he says that Jessie doesn’t deserve all the money anyway (regardless of the fact that Jessie cooked the batch by himself) because they are using Walt’s recipe.

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**Author:** ![what\_do\_I\_type\_here](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a5b964/32.png) [@what\_do\_I\_type\_here](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/what_do_I_type_here)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/14 "2010-04-12T22:22:33Z")

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-Why is Hank’s boss being such a dick? He acts like finding Heisenberg isn’t important. Isn’t it?

-Did Saul’s henchman see the scythe?

-What was Walt going to do right before he got thrown into the car? It looks like he was looking at the building’s air conditioning unit.

-I’ve never worked in an office but was Skyler using that copier wrong? I thought the lid was supposed to be down.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/15 "2010-04-12T22:29:57Z")

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> [@what\_do\_I\_type\_here](#):
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> -Why is Hank’s boss being such a dick? He acts like finding Heisenberg isn’t important. Isn’t it?

Probably part of it is he thinks Heisenberg’s been captured (the guy Saul paid to take the fall) and that Hank’s in denial.

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> -Did Saul’s henchman see the scythe?

Yes, he mentioned it to Gus.

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> -What was Walt going to do right before he got thrown into the car? It looks like he was looking at the building’s air conditioning unit.

I think he was just post-rage wandering around in a daze.

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> -I’ve never worked in an office but was Skyler using that copier wrong? I thought the lid was supposed to be down.

Didn’t notice. Usually you do unless you’re photocopying a book or something that prevents it from closing.

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/16 "2010-04-12T22:31:30Z")

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1. He was being a dick because had _29_ camper van thingies in the whole state of New Mexico to track down. Presumably the chief would prefer a shorter list and relegated to at least Albuquerque or _some_thing more concrete than _possibly_ one of 29 camper things.

2. Yes, Saul’s private investigator saw it, stopped dead in his tracks and started looking around. He later tells Gus about it.

3. I think he was going to try and break in the side door.

4. We all know there is no correct way to use a copier. They exist to solely [cause trouble amongst office workers](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ8SefiNEcs).

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/17 "2010-04-12T22:35:19Z")

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> [@what\_do\_I\_type\_here](#):
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> -Why is Hank’s boss being such a dick? He acts like finding Heisenberg isn’t important. Isn’t it?

I don’t think he was being. He’s just doing his job. Both El Paso and he need to know what Hank is doing and to do that, they have to pin him down on it. You can’t just let employees wander around doing random things.

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> -Did Saul’s henchman see the scythe?

Yes.

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**Author:** ![nivlac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@nivlac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nivlac)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/18 "2010-04-12T22:43:43Z")

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> [@what\_do\_I\_type\_here](#):
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> -Why is Hank’s boss being such a dick? He acts like finding Heisenberg isn’t important. Isn’t it?

I don’t think he’s a dick. My guess is that he suspects that Hank is avoiding the task force assignment for some unknown reason. He doesn’t know what we know – Hank was really shook up from his last task force assignment when some agents got blown up, and clearly has some psychological problems from that.

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> -Did Saul’s henchman see the scythe?

That guys sees everything.

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> -What was Walt going to do right before he got thrown into the car? It looks like he was looking at the building’s air conditioning unit.

It looked like he was thinking of getting back into the building via the side door before he got tossed into the car by Saul’s henchman.

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> -I’ve never worked in an office but was Skyler using that copier wrong? I thought the lid was supposed to be down.

You can run a copier with the lid up. For big items, like accounting ledgers, you have no other choice.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/19 "2010-04-12T22:47:23Z")

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What bugged me about Skyler and the copier was after the copier stopped, she spoke with that woman and then just hit the copier button again, without changing whatever it was she was copying. It looked wrong, but then I’m an office drone. 🙂 Another slip-up from an earlier episode was Walt holding the file folder, presumably with the divorce papers in it, and it was obvious that the folder was empty. You could see light shining through it.

Guess there aren’t enough drones in the crew to catch that nitpicky kind of stuff.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-4-11-10-open-spoilers/535810/20 "2010-04-12T22:56:59Z")

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Amazing how a little 30 second scene like Mike watching his daughter play adds dimensions to the character.

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