# Breaking Bad 5.01 "Live Free or Die" 7/15/12 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 15, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323 "2012-07-15T18:26:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/1 "2012-07-15T18:26:02Z")
It’s back. We get an 8 episode run which they’re basically calling Season 5 Part 1, and the other 8 next year. Open spoilers for this episode and all the previous episodes, as per the normal episode discussion thread policy. Dish network is in a dispute with AMC, but if you’re a Dish customer, AMC will allow you to [stream the first episode live.](http://www.amctv.com/breakingbad4dish/) Not much to say. This is awesome. I’m pumped. Let’s see where this goes. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/2 "2012-07-15T18:41:07Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > It’s back. We get an 8 episode run which they’re basically calling Season 5 Part 1, and the other 8 next year. I hope “next year” just means [preferably very soon] after New Years Day and not next summer. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/3 "2012-07-15T19:04:52Z")
FYI, Wikipedia says the last eight episodes air next summer. ---
**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/4 "2012-07-15T19:38:02Z")
I just read on a torrent site that Gilligan has discussed the possibility of post-series feature films. I’m certainly down with that idea. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/5 "2012-07-15T20:06:15Z")
> [@Washoe](#): > > I just read on a torrent site that Gilligan has discussed the possibility of post-series feature films. I’m certainly down with that idea. I always assumed (not a spoiler because it hasn’t come from Gilligan, though Bryan Cranston has said it was his assumption) that the series would end with Walt’s death. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/6 "2012-07-15T20:12:38Z")
I think Hank will have to turn bad, then try to redeem himself before Walt kills him. ---
**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/7 "2012-07-15T20:42:05Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I hope “next year” just means [preferably very soon] after New Years Day and not next summer. As far as I’m aware, nobody from AMC or the show’s production has said anything about when the last half of the season would air. People assume, naturally, that it’s going to air next summer, but there’s not much to support that assumption. On the other hand, they’ll be shooting the final eight episodes this winter, which is several months earlier than they’ve shot their past seasons. With that in mind, I’m holding out hope that we’ll see the beginning of the end sometime this spring. ---
**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/8 "2012-07-15T20:43:50Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I always assumed (not a spoiler because it hasn’t come from Gilligan, though Bryan Cranston has said it was his assumption) that the series would end with Walt’s death. We’ve _all_ assumed that. It seems almost a given. But the quote I read said that Gilligan said something to the effect that “now we just have too much story to tell.” However you slice it, our answer will be a long time coming. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/9 "2012-07-15T22:03:32Z")
So we don’t know whether we’ll have an 8 episode DVD or a 16 episode DVD for the final season? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/10 "2012-07-15T23:15:18Z")
“Live free or die” is the state motto of New Hampshire. Do you think there’s any NH connection to the episode? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/11 "2012-07-16T00:05:07Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > “Live free or die” is the state motto of New Hampshire. Do you think there’s any NH connection to the episode? Maybe it’s more literal in some way, like “Face Off” was. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/12 "2012-07-16T02:21:55Z")
“It’s the universal symbol for keys.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/13 "2012-07-16T02:34:13Z")
Thirty minutes in and I can absolutely say… _…God damned, but I have missed this show._ :eek: Ted’s NOT dead!! ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/14 "2012-07-16T02:36:27Z")
Wow. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/15 "2012-07-16T02:37:33Z")
Thank God AMC is offering this live stream…go to Hell, Dish! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/16 "2012-07-16T02:50:52Z")
“Because I say so.” ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/17 "2012-07-16T02:58:22Z")
What was in the bag that Saul had? I couldn’t make it out. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/18 "2012-07-16T02:59:48Z")
The cigarette. _The_ cigarette. Was the Skyler hug reminiscent of Michael and Fredo to anyone else? ---
**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/19 "2012-07-16T03:06:59Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > The cigarette. > > _The_ cigarette. Now, why is Saul holding onto that?? Surely it should be flushed, post haste. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/20 "2012-07-16T03:15:32Z")
Well, at least it’s now resolved that Saul’s bodyguard \*did indeed \*lift Jesse’s cigs when he was frisking him. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323.md?page=2)