# Breaking Bad 5.01 "Live Free or Die" 7/15/12 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 15, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323 "2012-07-15T18:26:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/41 "2012-07-16T04:16:12Z")
Somebody in a previous thread said that he thought that Beneke wasn’t dead, and we all scoffed at the idea. ---
**Author:** ![edwards\_beard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/42 "2012-07-16T04:24:22Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > I also liked how Hank said almost nothing this episode. Yes he didn’t say much…but when he was down checking out the lab, did he mention that it looked exactly like the sketches in Gail’s Lab Notes? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/43 "2012-07-16T04:42:53Z")
The series has peaked with this line: “You know, I can foresee a lot of possible outcomes to this thing, and not a single one of them involves Miller Time.” ---
**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/44 "2012-07-16T04:43:12Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Somebody in a previous thread said that he thought that Beneke wasn’t dead, and we all scoffed at the idea. Ha ha! Eat crow, all you faithless Ted deniers! (Not that I staked a claim one way or the other.) I note that we now have yet another _bald_ male character in this series, at least for now, which surely makes some sort of record. [QUOTE=davidm] When Skyler told Walt about Beneke, was Walt thinking “I’m going to have to kill him”? [/QUOTE] Yeah, I thought that too. > [@Mixolydian](#): > > Seemed to me they were keying into what was behind that photo of Gus and ???. > An unfortunate side effect of the magnet is that they drew attention to whatever was in the locker. Looks like it said, “Cayman Islands routing number”, or the like. No doubt that’s going to lead somewhere fun. [QUOTE=Mixolydian] Leaving a $100 tip isn’t too inconspicuous either 🙂 [/QUOTE] Maybe it’s one of those new _upscale_ Denny’s. You know. _Really really_ upscale. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/45 "2012-07-16T04:47:55Z")
> [@Bytegeist](#): > > Looks like it said, “Cayman Islands routing number”, or the like. No doubt that’s going to lead somewhere fun. Bancsuisse, Caymans. Followed by a lot of numbers, which I assume are account numbers. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/46 "2012-07-16T04:55:07Z")
> [@Bytegeist](#): > > Looks like it said, “Cayman Islands routing number”, or the like. No doubt that’s going to lead somewhere fun. I was TIVOing it and I paused it and walked up to the screen to read it. Maybe not those exact words but it implied a Cayman Islands account. I’m trying to imagine how it could possibly implicate Walt. Maybe it will implicate someone else who knows about Walt and could possibly turn state’s evidence. Maybe it will implicate Mike. Maybe Mitt Romney. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/47 "2012-07-16T05:16:35Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Maybe it will implicate someone else who knows about Walt and could possibly turn state’s evidence. Maybe it will implicate Mike. > > Maybe Mitt Romney. 😛 That’d be so freakin’ awesome! What’s the point of bringing Ted back from the dead? (Yes, I was a scoffer.) Skyler is convinced Ted won’t talk. **I’m** convinced he won’t talk. So maybe Walt isn’t convinced, and when he offs Ted, Skyler will set something in motion. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/48 "2012-07-16T05:51:03Z")
Can someone tell me what happened to Ted? The last thing I remember about him from last season was that he was being a jerk about paying off the taxes with the money Skyler gave him. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/49 "2012-07-16T06:04:44Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Can someone tell me what happened to Ted? The last thing I remember about him from last season was that he was being a jerk about paying off the taxes with the money Skyler gave him. Skyler had Saul send two goons over to his house to force him to sign and send a check for his back-taxes to the IRS, so that his business wouldn’t get audited and implicate Skyler. As she was the accountant there, the IRS would probably look into her and quickly discover that she and Walt owned the carwash where they were laundering massive amounts of cash. While the goons were at Ted’s house, he panicked and ran, but he slipped on a rug and hit his head and/or broke his neck on some furniture. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/50 "2012-07-16T06:04:55Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Can someone tell me what happened to Ted? The last thing I remember about him from last season was that he was being a jerk about paying off the taxes with the money Skyler gave him. This, and what was the deal with the cigarette again? I remember it contained the poison, but then what? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/51 "2012-07-16T06:09:07Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > I think Gilligan is taking a big chance (and a brave one) by making Walt so cold and arrogant. He’s totally unsympathetic now Well, as several people associated with the show have noted, it isn’t called Breaking _Good_ ;). If they do this right by the end he may be such a monster ( sacrifice his wife? Jesse? everybody? ) that everyone will be actively rooting for his death in the most painful way imaginable. I like it. But then apparently contrary to most I like the character of Nancy on _Weeds_ being revealed as more and more repulsive as time passes. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/52 "2012-07-16T06:10:54Z")
> [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > This, and what was the deal with the cigarette again? I remember it contained the poison, but then what? Last year they (Walt and Saul) had to get the cigarette with the poison from Jesse so that they could convince him that Gus took it and used it on the kid. This confirms what many had speculated - that Huell took the cigarette when he was frisking Jesse. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/53 "2012-07-16T06:40:47Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > Bancsuisse, Caymans. Followed by a lot of numbers, which I assume are account numbers. Yep. BANCSUISSE, CAYMAN ROUTING # 37010412 KY077212-11099 KY087 (illegible) ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/54 "2012-07-16T07:20:25Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > Well that was a great start to the season. I’m still processing the episode, but I loved that it was Jesse’s idea to use a magnet. And his excitement when it worked. Another one for the Mythbusters to take on because I’m skeptical especially given that the feds have access to all kinds of disk drive forensic tools and disks aren’t considered wiped until every location has been written over multiple times. And wouldn’t Gus, being the careful person we believe him to be have used encryption anyway? And if he had copies to keep his employees in line, wouldn’t those be in a safe deposit box somewhere or perhaps even in his attorney’s care along the lines of “in the event of my death…” Still, it was a lot of fun. Favorite line: “What’s up with that? Why would anyone want to put a metal ring through the end of their prick?” ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/55 "2012-07-16T07:29:49Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Well, as several people associated with the show have noted, it isn’t called Breaking _Good_ ;). If they do this right by the end he may be such a monster ( sacrifice his wife? Jesse? everybody? ) that everyone will be actively rooting for his death in the most painful way imaginable. I hope it won’t be that black and white, and I doubt it will be, at least to the extent that _everyone_ will be totally rooting against him. It seems to me that the foreshadowing at the beginning of this episode was in order to start slowly preparing the audience for his ultimate demise, so that people won’t be let down so abruptly when it all just ends with his death, epic as it most likely will be. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/56 "2012-07-16T08:45:48Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > It seems to me that the foreshadowing at the beginning of this episode was in order to start slowly preparing the audience for his ultimate demise, so that people won’t be let down so abruptly when it all just ends with his death, epic as it most likely will be. Or that’s what they want us to think and will blindside us with something else instead. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/57 "2012-07-16T11:18:31Z")
I thought Saul skipped town and his secretary shredded all his papers. I missed the beginning. What happened in the diner? I watched online because I have Dish. I am so irritated; I called Dish a month ago to complain and the rep categorically denied that Dish was dropping AMC! I knew he was lying and wanted to yell BITCH at him, but I didn’t because I’m, you know, a lady. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/58 "2012-07-16T11:28:10Z")
Did anybody watch the new show they kept promoting, Small Town Security? If done right, it looked like it could be good. All the characters looked like real horrors shows. ---
**Author:** ![Reverse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@Reverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reverse)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/59 "2012-07-16T11:39:51Z")
> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > I missed the beginning. What happened in the diner? It’s Walt’s 52nd birthday which he’s “celebrating” alone (contrast with pilot); a guy shows up; he goes in the bathroom and Walt follows; Walt gives money to the guy who gives him keys in return; the guy mentions mentions that Walt is skipping the country; Walt tips the waitress a hundred bucks; goes outside, gets his bag from his car, uses the keys, finds his new car; there’s a big motherloving machine gun in the trunk; title screen. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/60 "2012-07-16T11:45:16Z")
> [@Reverse](#): > > It’s Walt’s 52nd birthday which he’s “celebrating” alone (contrast with pilot); a guy shows up; he goes in the bathroom and Walt follows; Walt gives money to the guy who gives him keys in return; the guy mentions mentions that Walt is skipping the country; Walt tips the waitress a hundred bucks; goes outside, gets his bag from his car, uses the keys, finds his new car; there’s a big motherloving machine gun in the trunk; title screen. And Walt has a full head of (dyed) hair, so it’s presumably a ways in the future. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323.md?page=4)