# Breaking Bad 5.01 "Live Free or Die" 7/15/12 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 15, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323 "2012-07-15T18:26:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/141 "2012-07-16T19:41:22Z")
> [@Erdosain](#): > > The only part that bugged me was the gun dealer wanting assurances that the gun wouldn’t end up in Mexico. If I’m selling someone shady a big ass gun, I don’t want them using it in town. I’d prefer they kill a bunch of people in Mexico. My guess—we’re seeing a flash-forward to the last episode of this half season. Walt’s emergence as the new kingpin has put him at odds with the cartels. The gun dealer is concerned that Walt is going to use the product that he (the gun dealer) supplied to kill a cartel boss. The gun dealer doesn’t want that kind of heat. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/142 "2012-07-16T20:30:24Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Awesome catch! A lot of people were complaining about how implausible it would be for Walt to have a delivery method for that. [Here’s a screenshot of the schedule being shredded.](http://i55.tinypic.com/2itju5t.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/143 "2012-07-16T23:13:49Z")
Yeah, the feeds going directly to the laptop doesn’t really make sense. More realistically, the feeds could go to a server of some sort, and the laptop could be used to access the server. Whether that’s what was going on and this will come back to bite Walt in the ass, or it’s just a case of tech on shows never making real world sense (like the screens glitching out), I dunno. Glad to see I was right about Ted not necessarily being dead. Still don’t see how that big ogre Huel could’ve lifted Jesse’s cigarette, though. A breakfast scene where Walt Jr. doesn’t talk about pancakes? Hmmm… I wonder if he’s dead by Walt Sr.'s 52nd. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/144 "2012-07-17T00:38:36Z")
The 52 is significant because the [diagnosis from the first doctor (Season 1, Ep. 1)](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fyGrPL2Pdo&feature=player_detailpage#t=1114s) was that he had just a couple of years left to live…and just like the Pink Teddy Bear teaser scene at the start of season 2 led us to the crash of the 737 at the end of that season, I believe the same pattern of teaser reveals will lead to the finale of the semi-season or the last episode of the show, where Walt is at the end of his life and will be in a position of going out in a blaze of glory…just not sure who will be on the other end of that little friend of his. My 1/50 of a dollar… ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/145 "2012-07-17T02:02:01Z")
Someone on Sepinwall’s page pointed out that this episode title is the same as the one in The Sopranos, when that closeted gay character (forgot his name) ran off to New Hampshire. We know how **that** turned out. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/146 "2012-07-17T02:12:52Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Someone on Sepinwall’s page pointed out that this episode title is the same as the one in The Sopranos, when that closeted gay character (forgot his name) ran off to New Hampshire. We know how **that** turned out. ☹ Vito, but I’m almost positive that episode was called “Johnny Cakes”. ETA, looking it up, a few episodes back is an episode called Live Free or Die when Vito gets spotted at the leather club. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/147 "2012-07-17T02:55:27Z")
Since people seem to be ignoring my comment about the computer displays failing, I’m going to repeat it: A strong enough electro-magnetic field could mess up the video card RAM, which would result in the failure of the display exactly as shown. **The screen fail is realistic** , not TV-fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/148 "2012-07-17T02:57:35Z")
This is a great start to the season. “We’re done when we say we’re done.” Love it. The magnet in the evidence room was done in a movie called The Big Easy to destroy a tape. In this case the tape was on the shelf in an evidence room and it implicated a crooked cop taking a bribe. The cop tossed a huge magnet through a store window and a different cop who was his friend bagged up the magnet as evidence of a vandalism and just so happened to put it next to the tape on the shelf. ---
**Author:** ![Flang\_Dang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e4f/32.png) [@Flang\_Dang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flang_Dang)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/149 "2012-07-17T02:58:15Z")
It was in the future. Didn’t anyone catch that the “Denny’s” is a former “Pollos Hermanos”? Maybe even the old meeeting place with Gus, The “I forgive you” at the end was Walt telling Skylar that what she did (with the affair and taking his money and going behind his back with Saul) was REALLY BAD and her life is in his hands. And it was not lost on her ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/150 "2012-07-17T03:07:24Z")
> [@Flang\_Dang](#): > > It was in the future. Didn’t anyone catch that the “Denny’s” is a former “Pollos Hermanos”? Maybe even the old meeeting place with Gus, Do you have a confirmation on that or is it just speculation? Even if it is A LPH, it’s not the same one. Right off the bat, the one we’ve been seeing has a huge parking lot and this one has a tiny lot right up against a main road. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/151 "2012-07-17T03:34:12Z")
> [@Flang\_Dang](#): > > It was in the future. Didn’t anyone catch that the “Denny’s” is a former “Pollos Hermanos”? Maybe even the old meeeting place with Gus, No, I didn’t. Did it have the logo outside? I was surprised Denny’s was giving free birthday meals; I thought they stopped that. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/152 "2012-07-17T04:02:23Z")
Bryan Cranston is a guest tonight on Jimmy Kimmel Live, which just started. (EST) ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/153 "2012-07-17T04:08:36Z")
He probably was in NH at some point. He grabs the duffel bag out of a white car with a NH license plate. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/154 "2012-07-17T04:15:03Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I was surprised Denny’s was giving free birthday meals; I thought they stopped that. Okay, so now we know at some point in the future Mr White is SOOO on the skids money wise he needs to fake his birthday to get a free breakfast? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/155 "2012-07-17T04:18:30Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I was surprised Denny’s was giving free birthday meals; I thought they stopped that. [Apparently not.](http://dennys.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=denny%27s%20free%20birthday&utm_campaign=%28B%29+Denny%27s+Specials+P-&utm_content=sisdCac8l%7C12502289316&gclid=CJz76oHtn7ECFekZQgod4UaPXA#/specials/specialsMenuRight3) ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/156 "2012-07-17T05:53:47Z")
Does the reveal of the bank account details on the picture frame strike anyone else as very forced writing compared to the rest of the episode? Gus was too careful to leave something like that out in the open, it would be encrypted on his laptop. And even for a careless person, there’s just no reason to write a bank account number on a picture frame like that. If I needed to hide a bank account number on paper for some reason, I’d disguise it as something else, eg make up a fake address that uses the account number as the street address + post code, then hide it in an address book with a bunch of real addresses. It seems incredibly amateur, unless they reveal some other character wrote it there and Gus didn’t know about the bank address on the photo. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/157 "2012-07-17T08:39:33Z")
> [@McDeath\_the\_Mad](#): > > Realistically if it was an SSD he’d have 512GB _possibly_ 1TB. Even if it wasn’t an SSD drive, I don’t know if you can buy a 2.5" laptop drive in sizes larger than 1TB. Not only that, aren’t we dealing with 2008-2009 technology here? HDs were smaller and SSD much less common. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/158 "2012-07-17T11:45:34Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Does the reveal of the bank account details on the picture frame strike anyone else as very forced writing compared to the rest of the episode? Gus was too careful to leave something like that out in the open, it would be encrypted on his laptop. And even for a careless person, there’s just no reason to write a bank account number on a picture frame like that. It wasn’t on the picture frame, it was on a piece of paper behind the picture, which was exposed when the broken frame fell apart. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/159 "2012-07-17T12:43:22Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Does the reveal of the bank account details on the picture frame strike anyone else as very forced writing compared to the rest of the episode? Gus was too careful to leave something like that out in the open, it would be encrypted on his laptop. And even for a careless person, there’s just no reason to write a bank account number on a picture frame like that. > > If I needed to hide a bank account number on paper for some reason, I’d disguise it as something else, eg make up a fake address that uses the account number as the street address + post code, then hide it in an address book with a bunch of real addresses. > > It seems incredibly amateur, unless they reveal some other character wrote it there and Gus didn’t know about the bank address on the photo. Good point. Having the numbers there would have made sense but there was no need to label them as if he were to forget why the numbers were there. That was obviously for the audience. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323/160 "2012-07-17T12:48:09Z")
I didn’t catch the dialogue in the destroyed lab when Hank pointed up at something. Did someone say something about Gatorade? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-01-live-free-or-die-7-15-12/628323.md?page=9)