# Breaking Bad 5.02 "Madrigal" 7/22/2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 23, 2012, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089 "2012-07-23T00:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/1 "2012-07-23T00:09:20Z")
Season 5 [Episode 1: Live Free or Die](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=658636) Spoilers for this episode and any previous episodes are open. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/2 "2012-07-23T02:30:28Z")
Who is this broad talking to Mike in the diner? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/3 "2012-07-23T02:42:58Z")
No one knows any more about her than you do. Just be patient and wait for the show to tell us who she is. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/4 "2012-07-23T02:43:50Z")
I thought I might have missed something. It happens a lot. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/5 "2012-07-23T02:51:21Z")
Less commercials! More Breaking Bad!! ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/6 "2012-07-23T02:55:55Z")
I’m guessing Mrs. Fring. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/7 "2012-07-23T03:03:00Z")
Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/8 "2012-07-23T03:07:43Z")
Breaking Bad Wiki says she’s a former associate of Gus’ and that she worked for Madrigal. It also said “she’s an upcoming character” so the author may or may not have had the full story yet. I rarely visit that site and have no idea who updates it. Did anyone do the story sync thing? I flipped over to it a few times and really didn’t like it. It seemed to spoil everything. For example it said “Letting Lydia live” Like/Dislike…well, the scene wasn’t over, but I guess we know Mike’s not going to kill her. ---
**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/9 "2012-07-23T03:10:08Z")
What was Schuler, the Madrigal executive, doing in some sort of taste test with sauces at the beginning? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/10 "2012-07-23T03:11:16Z")
Also, I really liked the way Walt planted the ricin cigarette in Jesse’s house. It doesn’t get much more manipulative then that. Not only is Jesse now 1000% sure that Walt had nothing to do with Brock getting sick, he can’t even direct all that anger (at himself) towards Gus. All he can use it for is “Team White” spirit and help Walt in any way he can. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/11 "2012-07-23T03:12:18Z")
> [@Bytegeist](#): > > What was Schuler, the Madrigal executive, doing in some sort of taste test with sauces at the beginning? He was the head honcho in charge of the restaurants division. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/12 "2012-07-23T03:14:23Z")
> [@Bytegeist](#): > > What was Schuler, the Madrigal executive, doing in some sort of taste test with sauces at the beginning? The only thing I can think of with that is that the writers were trying to show that the people on Gus’ payroll are so loyal to him that even after Gus is dead, they would sooner kill themselves then talk. I have to assume that for some reason he couldn’t just lie and/or they were just trying to make a point. Also, the way he nicely took off his clothes and hung them up was a pretty obvious homage to Gus throwing up in Mexico after drinking the poisoned tequila. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/13 "2012-07-23T03:15:16Z")
So, all of that trouble with the electromagnet, and all it achieved was leading them to the Cayman bank accounts. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/14 "2012-07-23T03:19:09Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > So, all of that trouble with the electromagnet, and all it achieved was leading them to the Cayman bank accounts. Yup, fitting in with the overall two steps forward, three steps back theme. ---
**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/15 "2012-07-23T03:22:08Z")
That final scene, my God. Walt is an irredeemable scumbag now. Between that scene and his manipulation of Jesse, this episode put him full tilt into evil narcissistic villain territory. His treatment of Skyler was the crossing of the Rubicon, I think. No sympathy for the guy anymore. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/16 "2012-07-23T03:26:51Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Yup, fitting in with the overall two steps forward, three steps back theme. Except, if Hank was right that the drive was hopelessly encrypted anyway, then it was _no_ steps forward. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/17 "2012-07-23T03:33:29Z")
I liked that the German executive restroom was so red-themed that even the toilet paper was red. ---
**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/18 "2012-07-23T03:39:51Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > He was the head honcho in charge of the restaurants division. Okay, I guess I was confused about Madrigal. I thought they made heating equipment, or laundry machines, or something along those lines. > [@Joey\_P](#): > > The only thing I can think of with that is that the writers were trying to show that the people on Gus’ payroll are so loyal to him that even after Gus is dead, they would sooner kill themselves then talk. Possibly, though I took it to mean he knew the jig was up and there was no way out. We heard from the secretary that the cops had already come by before. Maybe he just couldn’t face prison. > [@Tarwater](#): > > His treatment of Skyler was the crossing of the Rubicon, I think. No sympathy for the guy anymore. Yes, I was cringing during that scene. Almost had to mute it. She looked on the verge of screaming. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/19 "2012-07-23T03:43:02Z")
> [@Bytegeist](#): > > Yes, I was cringing during that scene. Almost had to mute it. She looked on the verge of screaming. Did she have any lines during this episode ? She mumbled a few half away words at the beginning, but I think that was it. (I mean that in a good (good acting) way). ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089/20 "2012-07-23T03:44:30Z")
> [@Bytegeist](#): > > Okay, I guess I was confused about Madrigal. I thought they made heating equipment, or laundry machines, or something along those lines. They are a big conglomerate with many divisions that expanded into the restaurant business under Mr. Shuler’s guidance. So, yeah, they do produce the kind of equipment you describe, among many other things. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-02-madrigal-7-22-2012/629089.md?page=2)