# Breaking Bad 5.04 "Fifty-One" Aug. 5, 2012

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 6, 2012, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576 "2012-08-06T02:10:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pine_Fresh_Scent)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/121 "2012-08-07T05:48:38Z")

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It was a nice visual touch that the pool was the same color as the blue meth, making Skyler “fully immersed in Walt’s poison” as noted by Donna Bowman in her review.

The bedroom scene reminded me of Tony and Carmella Soprano’s [showdown.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9oY7zpan18). Skyler’s “I thought you were the danger” = Carmella’s “you f\*\*\*ing hypocrite.” Walt now makes Tony Soprano look like Ward Cleaver. When the screen goes black on Walt at the end of the series, I don’t think I’ll be as concerned about his fate as I was when Tony’s story ended (or does it go"on and on and on and on"?)

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/122 "2012-08-07T06:53:53Z")

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> [@Andiethewestie](#):
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> The Ricin won’t be smoked. There is a fear it will be ingested. My worry is that vile is hidden in Baby Holly’s room. What if when the Baby comes home she goes crawling around, touching everything as babies do, and that electrical outlet plate comes off? Baby’s look at things and the next thing it’s in their mouth.

I think they showed him hiding it behind the faceplate of the outlet behind his night table in his bedroom.

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**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/123 "2012-08-07T06:54:54Z")

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Insider podcast is up.

[http://podcasts.sonypictures.com/tv\_VAM/breaking\_bad/Breaking\_Bad\_Insider\_504.mp3](http://podcasts.sonypictures.com/tv_VAM/breaking_bad/Breaking_Bad_Insider_504.mp3)

I didn’t realize that the director of this episode is also the director of [Looper](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looper_%28film%29).

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/124 "2012-08-07T13:56:08Z")

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> [@standingwave](#):
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> Insider podcast is up.
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> [http://podcasts.sonypictures.com/tv\_VAM/breaking\_bad/Breaking\_Bad\_Insider\_504.mp3](http://podcasts.sonypictures.com/tv_VAM/breaking_bad/Breaking_Bad_Insider_504.mp3)
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> I didn’t realize that the director of this episode is also the director of [Looper](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looper_%28film%29).

And Brick, and The Brothers Bloom, and the Breaking Bad episode “Fly.”

I love Rian Johnson’s stuff; if you haven’t seen Brick, watch it as soon as you can.

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/125 "2012-08-07T17:09:06Z")

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This is from a few pages back but when the mechanic was talking about “some sort of gunky build-up” behind the Aztek’s front fender that he had to steam off, he was referring to the blood and gore left behind from Walt running over the drug dealers in season 3.

Walt got rid of the Aztek for selfish reasons, but being reminded how stupid he was driving around with DNA on his car for 6 months probably didn’t hurt either.

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**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/126 "2012-08-07T17:31:08Z")

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> [@Erdosain](#):
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> This is from a few pages back but when the mechanic was talking about “some sort of gunky build-up” behind the Aztek’s front fender that he had to steam off, he was referring to the blood and gore left behind from Walt running over the drug dealers in season 3.

Thanks for that. For some reason I had it in mind that it was a chemical residue.

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> Walt got rid of the Aztek for selfish reasons, but being reminded how stupid he was driving around with DNA on his car for 6 months probably didn’t hurt either.

This is still my thinking. Despite the mechanic promising the Aztek was well cleaned, Walt realized it was a bad idea to keep it, with whatever other incriminating evidence it might still contain. (Maybe spots of Krazy-8’s blood in the trunk?) It’s why he wanted to sell it right then and there, for only 50 bucks.

I suppose the point is moot now though — unless the Aztek somehow resurfaces in a later episode, which seems unlikely.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/127 "2012-08-07T17:49:36Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> What about intended for Skyler, but ends up getting Walt Jr.?

Yes, please god.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/128 "2012-08-07T18:23:50Z")

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Maybe it will get mixed into his pancakes?

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/129 "2012-08-07T18:34:20Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Never, ever, forget that Saul is the same slimy weaselly ambulance chaser that he was when we first met him. He’s going to tell anyone anything that they want to hear if it means a couple more billable hours or a few more dollars that he can help move from one side of a table to the other side so that he can take a cut. He’s [almost] always go to do what he can to be everyone’s best friend.  
> Now, granted, in that case, Saul was fearing for his life, but he’s still hardwired to try to fix every situation he runs across to his advantage.

I think there’s a lot more to it than that. Or Odenkirk is playing it like there’s much more to it. He looks to get legitimately hurt when Jesse or Walt remind him or even don’t even acknowledge his comments of a greater bond between them.  
Walt and Saul had this goodbye scene where Saul goes to shake Walt’s hand and Walt doesn’t even acknowledge it and just asks for a favor. Saul loos a little hurt.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/130 "2012-08-07T19:17:22Z")

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As I recall, ricin takes a day or two before symptoms even show.

Is Skyler still nursing the baby? :eek:

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/131 "2012-08-07T19:30:11Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> Oh yes. Bitch has it coming. Doesn’t matter that she’s freakin’ hot!

I like how Hank described Lydia as the woman “with the banjo eyes.” And as soon as the DEA showed up at her office, I knew Hank would pick up on her mismatched shoes.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/132 "2012-08-07T19:32:07Z")

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I don’t think there’s any way Hank tries to off Skyler with the ricin. If she dies by his hand, he’ll have to make it look like suicide or an accident. Ingesting ricin doesn’t fit either of those.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/133 "2012-08-07T19:36:37Z")

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Ricin looks like the flu. There’s no reason anyone would test her for ricin. They didn’t think to test the kid for ricin until Jesse mentioned it.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/134 "2012-08-07T19:43:09Z")

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Somebody has to die by ricin, though, so who?

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/135 "2012-08-07T19:52:12Z")

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> [@Scupper](#):
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> Somebody has to die by ricin, though, so who?

I hope no one. It’s too obvious at this point.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/136 "2012-08-07T20:41:33Z")

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> [@Scupper](#):
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> Somebody has to die by ricin, though, so who?

I think Walt is going to lose his entire family by his 52nd birthday…and indirectly by his hands:

Holly killed by the Ricin.  
Walt Jr. killed in a car accident.  
Skyler, by suicide after her two kids die, but will leave clues behind to implicate Walt as Heisenberg.

It would make an epic modern day Greek Tragedy: A good man facing death within 2 years who tries to ensure security for them after he dies, instead ends up killing his family in those same 2 years, and he lives as the villian.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/137 "2012-08-07T22:50:06Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Never, ever, forget that Saul is the same slimy weaselly ambulance chaser that he was when we first met him. He’s going to tell anyone anything that they want to hear if it means a couple more billable hours or a few more dollars that he can help move from one side of a table to the other side so that he can take a cut. He’s [almost] always go to do what he can to be everyone’s best friend.  
> Now, granted, in that case, Saul was fearing for his life, but he’s still hardwired to try to fix every situation he runs across to his advantage.

One of my favorite parts about Saul’s turn around to trying to get away and bitching about how much he has to do to cover Walt and Jesse’s ass is that he blackmailed them to be cut into their business. What was supposed to be sweet, easy money has turned into a nightmare of a hassle, and it’s all his fault.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/138 "2012-08-07T22:51:31Z")

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[Bonfire!](http://youtu.be/e-IWRmpefzE)

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/139 "2012-08-07T23:30:19Z")

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> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#):
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> It would make an epic modern day Greek Tragedy: A good man facing death within 2 years who tries to ensure security for them after he dies, instead ends up killing his family in those same 2 years, and he lives as the villian.

Man, if they did that, it would make the darkness of season 4 look like nothing. That’d be the darkest season of any television show, pretty much ever.

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-04-fifty-one-aug-5-2012/630576/140 "2012-08-07T23:48:54Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> I think they showed him hiding it behind the faceplate of the outlet behind his night table in his bedroom.

Is it? My bad. I guess I mixed it up with the money stashed behind the vent in the Baby’s room.

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