# Breaking Bad 5.05 "Dead Freight" 8/12/12

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 12, 2012, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256 "2012-08-12T08:54:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/261 "2012-08-15T20:11:28Z")

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> [@Washoe](#):
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> You mean the final episode of the second season, where he comes to ‘clean up’ Jane? I just replayed it—I’m not seeing any bloody nose.

I’m not sure what episode it was. Within the first couple episodes of meeting him, though.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/262 "2012-08-15T21:18:11Z")

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I don’t remember that at all. I’m not having any luck finding it online either.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/263 "2012-08-15T21:26:00Z")

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> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#):
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> The [preview for the next episode](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izXVSSyyW1Q) shows:
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> [spoiler]The kid is dead and buried (but for some reason Todd is digging him up) somewhere in a cellar or enclosed place, Mike slamming Todd against some wire mesh gate, Jesse being morally shaken AGAIN, Mike being tailed by the DEA and announcing that he’s done (until Walt finds a way to drag him back in), Marie and Skyler getting pink and purplely all over, and Walt getting reckless some more, Gustavo style.
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> But there is one scene where Mike and Jesse are out in the desert meeting up with 2 other people…and one of them “looks” like Hank…😕[/spoiler]

Wow. Thanks for posting that. I hadn’t seen it. Is it possible for this damn show to get any _more_ intense? It appears to be so!

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/264 "2012-08-15T21:26:55Z")

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> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#):
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> Walt is not gonna let anyone but Jesse cook with him…Fool me once (with Gale), shame on me, Fool me twice (with Victor), shame on you…Fool me a third time (with Todd)? Ain’t gonna happen.

But the only reason there were complications there was because of Gus, and the adversarial relationship he and Walt had. Now that Walt thinks _he’s_ Gus, he might not have that apprehension.

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> The [preview for the next episode](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izXVSSyyW1Q) shows:

Wow, that’s a lot more extensive than the brief preview I saw before. (Didn’t watch your linked video - just read your description.)

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/265 "2012-08-15T21:29:02Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I don’t remember that at all. I’m not having any luck finding it online either.

I do very vaguely remember Mike with a bloody nose and wondering what was up with that, and if/when we would find out.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/266 "2012-08-15T21:45:03Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> I do very vaguely remember Mike with a bloody nose and wondering what was up with that, and if/when we would find out.

Thinking about this more, I’m wondering if it’s a false memory confabulated with when he had Victor’s blood on his sleeve after Gus killed him. \<shrug\>

ETA: I could swear I have an image of Mike with a bloody nose, but since Walt is also bald and has had bloody noses, it’s probably that.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/267 "2012-08-15T21:50:33Z")

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I miss the Aztec and the blue tape on the windshield that he would never remove when Walt invariably ended up with yet another broken windshield and had it replaced. Now whenever I see one of those fugly cars out on the road, I always think of Walter White.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/268 "2012-08-15T22:18:17Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> I miss the Aztec and the blue tape on the windshield that he would never remove when Walt invariably ended up with yet another broken windshield and had it replaced. Now whenever I see one of those fugly cars out on the road, I always think of Walter White.

Hey, that probably increased their value. That reminds me of an alarm clock I saw on the show (there was a big close-up shot of it: silver with blue numbers), and thought “that’s a pretty sexy alarm clock.” It just so happened that the one I had was 8-9 years old and giving out, so I went to Target to buy a new one and lo and behold, _they had the very same model in stock!_ So I’m now the proud owner of a Walter White alarm clock. Only cost me $19.99.

Now I just have to find a Heisenberg hat.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/269 "2012-08-15T22:36:48Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> Hey, that probably increased their value. That reminds me of an alarm clock I saw on the show (there was a big close-up shot of it: silver with blue numbers), and thought “that’s a pretty sexy alarm clock.” It just so happened that the one I had was 8-9 years old and giving out, so I went to Target to buy a new one and lo and behold, _they had the very same model in stock!_ So I’m now the proud owner of a Walter White alarm clock. Only cost me $19.99.
> 
> Now I just have to find a Heisenberg hat.

I was surprised by the mechanic’s assessment of the Aztec in the episode where Walt ended up selling it to him for $50, calling it “solid”. From what I can tell, the Aztec is a POS in every regard. Especially in the looks department.

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**Author:** ![pilot141](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pilot141](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pilot141)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/270 "2012-08-16T00:41:33Z")

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People, people - this show is all about accuracy.

It’s a Pontiac Aztek with a “k” at the end, just to add a little bit more of an insult to your humanity when you buy one. 🙂

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/271 "2012-08-16T01:20:03Z")

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> [@pilot141](#):
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> People, people - this show is all about accuracy.
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> It’s a Pontiac Aztek with a “k” at the end, just to add a little bit more of an insult to your humanity when you buy one. 🙂

If i were to buy one the insult would go far beyond humanity…

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**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/272 "2012-08-16T02:04:40Z")

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Oh, _k—the humanity!_

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/273 "2012-08-16T03:53:07Z")

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I had completely forgotten about the kid until he showed up again at the end.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/274 "2012-08-16T05:11:00Z")

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Good lord, just had a thought. Do you think if the DEA has Mike dead to rights, he’d throw Walt under the bus and wear a wire?

And could you imagine the look on Hank’s face when he realizes that’s Walt’s voice.

Then again, I don’t think there’d be much reason to wear a wire.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/275 "2012-08-16T05:18:21Z")

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I can’t see Mike rolling for anyone.

Maybe the heat is on and Walt and Jesse are about to be captured. Then maybe Walt’s cancer comes back. Walt, in a final act of redemption, convinces Jesse to rat out the crew and go into witness protection.

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**Author:** ![Ionizer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5daacb/32.png) [@Ionizer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ionizer)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/276 "2012-08-16T11:09:40Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> If I recall correctly, Skyler told Walt about the incident at the jewelers.

Yeah, plus how Marie mentioned the counselor=person she was seeing (or had been - forget actual specific details). Marie had asked Walt if Skyler was getting help, and Walt told Marie in so many words “yes, she is seeing a guy named Peter ‘something’ up in…” and told how it seemed to be helping, etc. Viewers could tell he was making it up then and there to satisfy Marie’s kinda-pushy “What’s the counselor’s name?” Marie gushed on a bit about the ‘wonderfully helpful’ counseling she had gotten for her problem.

While not specifically stating it was for her klepto, its clear Walt does not need details as he already knows the why of Marie’s visits to mental-health professional(s). Marie had no problem bringing up and also giving name of the guy treating her and would not have said it like that if Walt was ignorant of Marie’s basic problem.

I forget if it was this episode or the previous one, fwiw, but Walt does know at least the basics of why Marie told him she knows of a great counselor. I liked how Walt told Skyler later ~“Oh, by the way, you are seeing a counselor now. A guy named Peter something up in (name of area). I had to tell Marie and how you handle it is up to you”.

Regarding the last link to next week’s preview, thanks! I was already obsessively being impatient for Sunday to get here, but with Walt’s word ‘Empire’…damn. This series blows me away with how it gets me thinking of the finer points of each character. Best show ever! Just yesterday, told wife I want a Heisenberg hat. Guess I’ll need the sunglasses, too 🆒

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/277 "2012-08-16T11:40:14Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> Good lord, just had a thought. Do you think if the DEA has Mike dead to rights, he’d throw Walt under the bus and wear a wire?
> 
> And could you imagine the look on Hank’s face when he realizes that’s Walt’s voice.
> 
> Then again, I don’t think there’d be much reason to wear a wire.

Mike knows full well who Hank is, so if he was going to become an informant, he would just tell Hank what his BIL is up to. But yeah, I don’t see him being a rat at all.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/278 "2012-08-16T12:00:04Z")

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> [@Ionizer](#):
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> I liked how Walt told Skyler later ~“Oh, by the way, you are seeing a counselor now. A guy named Peter something up in (name of area). I had to tell Marie and how you handle it is up to you”.

Nitpick: I think he said something more like "… his last name is up to you. "

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/279 "2012-08-16T12:41:42Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> If i were to buy one the insult would go far beyond humanity…

Make sure to have the colour customized as “putty” or whatever you call that awful colour Walt’s car was. 😃

Just like all of you guys getting Heisenberg hats, I’ll bet some Aztek owner has done just that … 😉

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**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-05-dead-freight-8-12-12/631256/280 "2012-08-16T14:00:59Z")

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> [@pilot141](#):
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> People, people - this show is all about accuracy.
> 
> It’s a Pontiac Aztek with a “k” at the end, just to add a little bit more of an insult to your humanity when you buy one. 🙂

And on your way home from the Aztek dealer, you can pick up some **Froot** Loops and **Cheez** Whiz.

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