# Breaking Bad 5.09 "Blood Money" 8/11/2013

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 11, 2013, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973 "2013-08-11T22:21:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/241 "2013-08-15T21:54:25Z")

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Hank could’ve saved himself a world of trouble had he simply torn out that page with the inscription.

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**Author:** ![Strainger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strainger/32/244_2.png) [@Strainger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strainger)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/242 "2013-08-15T22:04:15Z")

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If anyone’s curious about the current condition of the White house (the exterior is an actual house in Albuquerque), my cousin drove by it Tuesday and snapped this pic: [http://instagram.com/p/c-T8AEtZYH/](http://instagram.com/p/c-T8AEtZYH/)

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/243 "2013-08-15T22:19:42Z")

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I wish someone on Talking Bad had asked Gilligan why Walt had to go retrieve that particular ricin. Why couldn’t he just make more? Seems like it would less risky than returning to the old hood.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/244 "2013-08-15T22:22:42Z")

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> [@Strainger](#):
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> If anyone’s curious about the current condition of the White house (the exterior is an actual house in Albuquerque), my cousin drove by it Tuesday and snapped this pic: [LinkWWPhoto on Instagram: "Everything seems normal here. #breakingbad #heisenberg #walterwhite"](http://instagram.com/p/c-T8AEtZYH/)

The inside is on a set, but on the podcast they said in order to do that they got the owners permission, ‘destroyed’ the outside shot all the scenes they needed and then repaired it in just a few days. Same for the pool. With permission, they drained it, painted it to look like dirty water had been sitting in it, made it look gross, then fixed it and refilled it when they were done. Part of the problem with the pool is that it’s not concrete, it’s a fiberglass shell. If the skateboarders punched a hole in it they couldn’t patch it, they’d have to yank it out and replace it.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/245 "2013-08-15T23:01:15Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I’ve never been sure if Walt really goes to New Hampshire in the future or if that is just a cover story, but if he goes, I think he’s going without Skyler and the kids. That would also give him a reason to come back.

I guess we’ll have to wait to find out for sure, but the car he got his bag out of at the Dennys in 5.01 had New Hampshire license plates.

> [@TBG](#):
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> I wish someone on Talking Bad had asked Gilligan why Walt had to go retrieve that particular ricin. Why couldn’t he just make more? Seems like it would less risky than returning to the old hood.

According to the Breaking Bad Insider Podcast (I’m going to spoiler this although it really tells nothing about future episodes, but does tell about their thought process when they were making it):They only had him retrieve the ricin because they needed a reason for him to go to the house. They really hadn’t thought it through any further than that when they developed the scene. It’s a little disappointing that they didn’t have the whole thing meticulously planned out but it’s kinda how they do things on the show - they paint themselves into a corner and then figure out how to reasonably get out (or, at least, that’s how they tell it). It’s worked so far.

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**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/246 "2013-08-16T00:07:41Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Part of the problem with the pool is that it’s not concrete, it’s a fiberglass shell. If the skateboarders punched a hole in it they couldn’t patch it, they’d have to yank it out and replace it.

Notice how none of the skatepunks are wearing helmets? Isn’t that a huge liability risk for the production company?

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/247 "2013-08-16T00:45:19Z")

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> [@Washoe](#):
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> Notice how none of the skatepunks are wearing helmets? Isn’t that a huge liability risk for the production company?

That sort of thing is pretty much standard for stuntmen in the entertainment industry and I am sure that they are insured. I can’t see how that is possibly an issue.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/248 "2013-08-16T00:57:15Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> That sort of thing is pretty much standard for stuntmen in the entertainment industry and I am sure that they are insured. I can’t see how that is possibly an issue.

They’re not stuntmen, they got them from a local skate park.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/249 "2013-08-16T01:49:23Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> They’re not stuntmen, they got them from a local skate park.

Unless there’s something fishy going on, I’d expect that the insurance company would have insisted on getting insurance for them, and also having their parents sign waivers.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/250 "2013-08-16T01:57:19Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Unless there’s something fishy going on, I’d expect that the insurance company would have insisted on getting insurance for them, and also having their parents sign waivers.

I’m sure there’s all kinds of waivers and insurance, but on the podcast they said they found them at a local skatepark. For something as specialized as that style of riding, it’s probably easier to pluck a few kids out of the skate park then to try to hire it out like they would if they needed someone to be lit on fire or fall off a roof or get into a car accident.

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/251 "2013-08-16T01:58:38Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> I wish someone on Talking Bad had asked Gilligan why Walt had to go retrieve that particular ricin. Why couldn’t he just make more? Seems like it would less risky than returning to the old hood.

He might not have access to the tools and chemicals necessary to make the ricin.

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**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/252 "2013-08-16T07:36:27Z")

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I really wonder how many people are going to die in the coming Chaos from Jessies little charity spree?  
Great Episode.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/253 "2013-08-16T08:21:43Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I’m sure there’s all kinds of waivers and insurance, but on the podcast they said they found them at a local skatepark. For something as specialized as that style of riding, it’s probably easier to pluck a few kids out of the skate park then to try to hire it out like they would if they needed someone to be lit on fire or fall off a roof or get into a car accident.

And not to mention, safer. You average stuntman can’t ride a skateboard like that. I can’t ride a skateboard, but you get to see skateboarders when you play in a surf band. Those guys were pretty good.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/254 "2013-08-16T13:29:49Z")

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> [@Strainger](#):
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> If anyone’s curious about the current condition of the White house (the exterior is an actual house in Albuquerque), my cousin drove by it Tuesday and snapped this pic: [LinkWWPhoto on Instagram: "Everything seems normal here. #breakingbad #heisenberg #walterwhite"](http://instagram.com/p/c-T8AEtZYH/)

Hmm, needs more roof pizza.

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**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/255 "2013-08-16T13:33:55Z")

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> [@II\_Gyan\_II](#):
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> Isn’t Walt’s big leverage that Hank took Walt’s money to pay for his rehabilitation? It’ll be up to Hank to convince prosecutors/jury that he had no part in Walt’s business as a LEO facilitator.

He lost a golden job opportunity in Texas because he wouldn’t let the blue meth go. He got chewed out by his boss because he wouldn’t let the blue meth go. I think he can reasonably make a case he wasn’t involved.

What bothers me about his silence, though, is how readily he was to face the consequences of his assault on Jesse. He was facing criminal charges and the loss of his job, and he confessed to it all. I would expect to see that same resolve to do the right thing here, rather than have yet another TV show/movie degenerate into the trope of, “this information is so vitally important. I better not tell anyone.”

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/256 "2013-08-16T13:49:06Z")

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> [@Patch](#):
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> He lost a golden job opportunity in Texas because he wouldn’t let the blue meth go. He got chewed out by his boss because he wouldn’t let the blue meth go. I think he can reasonably make a case he wasn’t involved.

That could be plausibly interpreted as not wanting anyone _else_ looking into the blue meth. They could say he didn’t want to cede any control of that specific investigation because he didn’t want to risk anyone finding out his involvement.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/257 "2013-08-16T14:11:47Z")

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> [@II\_Gyan\_II](#):
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> Isn’t Walt’s big leverage that Hank took Walt’s money to pay for his rehabilitation? It’ll be up to Hank to convince prosecutors/jury that he had no part in Walt’s business as a LEO facilitator.

His big leverage is that he’s a killer who has easy access to Hank, his wife, and Skyler and their children. But yes, any outsider would have a lot of questions about Hank’s involvement and knowledge. I don’t think the DEA would tolerate those questions. It just looks too suspicious.

> [@Patch](#):
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> I would expect to see that same resolve to do the right thing here, rather than have yet another TV show/movie degenerate into the trope of, “this information is so vitally important. I better not tell anyone.”

I don’t think you’re going to see that. To me, what’s going on is that Hank remains obsessed with the case and wants to know how Walt got away with this for a year.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/258 "2013-08-16T14:59:11Z")

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> [@Pitchmeister](#):
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> I’m curious if they’re going to make the “future” a recurring theme, like they did in season two with the B&W teddy bear scenes. Are we going to learn more and more about the situation until we finally catch up with it near the end? Or is this the last we’ve seen of hairy Walt for a while?

Interesting question. In 5A they deviated from the teddy bear precedent and stopped showing hairy Walt until a year later (in real life).

> [@Strainger](#):
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> If anyone’s curious about the current condition of the White house (the exterior is an actual house in Albuquerque), my cousin drove by it Tuesday and snapped this pic: [LinkWWPhoto on Instagram: "Everything seems normal here. #breakingbad #heisenberg #walterwhite"](http://instagram.com/p/c-T8AEtZYH/)

That’s cool, thanks. I wonder what the show has done to the value of that home? If I lived there I’d want it!

> [@BlackKnight](#):
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> That could be plausibly interpreted as not wanting anyone _else_ looking into the blue meth. They could say he didn’t want to cede any control of that specific investigation because he didn’t want to risk anyone finding out his involvement.

But he could counter that it would make no sense for him to doggedly pursue Gus. It makes even less sense for him to go after the 11 people Walt had killed. Walt had to come up with that complicated plan precisely because Hank was so focused and ignored or deflected requests for him to stop focussing so much attention and resources on that investigation.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/259 "2013-08-16T15:52:30Z")

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It doesn’t really matter what Hank could argue about the investigation. It matters what it would look like to the people above him when they were under pressure from their superiors and the public. I think it’s doubtful the DEA would want to keep Hank under those circumstances. A lot of people wouldn’t believe him and they wouldn’t really be able to prove he didn’t know anything.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-09-blood-money-8-11-2013/665973/260 "2013-08-16T15:53:28Z")

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At this point, I don’t think that Hank gives a fuck about his career. He just wants to nail Walt at all costs.

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