# Breaking Bad 5.11 "Confessions" 8/25/13 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 23, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959 "2013-08-23T13:02:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/181 "2013-08-26T16:27:45Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > He’s as guilty (in the eyes of the law) as Todd for the murder of dirt bike kid. Well, it’s worth pointing out that that entire heist was organized in the extremely complicated way it was organized at least partly because of Walt’s insistence that they NOT kill innocent train engineers. When the kid showed up at the end, we know that Todd’s reaction was to kill him, and Jesse’s reaction was to oh dear lord not kill him. What would Walt (or Mike) have done? We really don’t know. I really liked the short scene with Todd telling the story of the train heist. It makes the world feel a bit more real if something that was such an exciting episode of the show was also an exciting episode of Todd’s life, one that he’d want to talk about to people he could safely talk to about it. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/182 "2013-08-26T16:41:13Z")
Great episode, as usual, but I just wanted to say I think the idea of doing a comedic spin-off about Saul (an idea that’s been floated around) is an absolutely horrible idea. I hope they’re smart enough to just leave the show to stand on its own once it ends. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/183 "2013-08-26T16:48:27Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Great episode, as usual, but I just wanted to say I think the idea of doing a comedic spin-off about Saul (an idea that’s been floated around) is an absolutely horrible idea. I hope they’re smart enough to just leave the show to stand on its own once it ends. I think it could be great, but it depends on how it’s treated. Earlier on the show was much funnier and Saul was a big reason. I see him as a marginally-more-realistic-and-malicious Lionel Hutz. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/184 "2013-08-26T16:53:22Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#): > > I think just to show how casual they are with violence and murder. They killed a half dozen people in the desert and then went and had pancakes. He sees he has a spot of blood on his shoe and wipes it off as casually as if it had been some dust picked up on the walk in. Ah, probably. I thought he had dripped on his shoe while peeing, and that it was blood in his urine that he was wiping off. Guess not. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/185 "2013-08-26T16:57:27Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I think it could be great, but it depends on how it’s treated. Earlier on the show was much funnier and Saul was a big reason. I see him as a marginally-more-realistic-and-malicious Lionel Hutz. I think the comedy in the show works because it’s a relief from the dramatic tension that is the main mood; as a straight-up comedy, I think a lot of the greatness would be lost. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/186 "2013-08-26T16:59:18Z")
> [@Dogzilla](#): > > Remember the scene after Hank and Marie watched the video and she confesses she accepted the meth money for his rehab. Hank knew right there, that was the last nail in the coffin “You killed me”. Because even if the DEA investigates every single claim in the video and proves it all bullshit, the fact of the matter is: Hank accepted dirty drug money for his rehab (whether he knew the source of the money or not). It looks like he took a bribe to keep quiet. Prove he _didn’t_ accept that money as a bribe. I would think he might see jail time or at least charges just for that alone, nevermind keeping it quiet. To go to jail they would have to prove he DID accept it as bribe money, Hank wouldn’t have to prove he didn’t. Could they bring charges? Sure, but they would be foolish to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/187 "2013-08-26T17:06:24Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > I think the comedy in the show works because it’s a relief from the dramatic tension that is the main mood; as a straight-up comedy, I think a lot of the greatness would be lost. I think they would keep that element. You presumably wouldn’t have Walt and Jesse, but you would have Saul trying to run different schemes and keep his clients - some of whom would be really bad people - from getting themselves in trouble. And of course since he’s a criminal himself he’d also be trying to protect his own ass. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/188 "2013-08-26T17:09:19Z")
> [@Edward\_The\_Head](#): > > I saw that as Skyler trying to GIVE away the money she’s laundered, or can’t fully launder. She tells him “Thanks for being so honest”, and the next guy she says “Oh, you have exact change.” The way she looked and sounded she was basically trying to give money away and couldn’t even do that! That would directly parallel Jesse getting caught trying to give his money away. ---
**Author:** ![SuperNelson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@SuperNelson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperNelson)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/189 "2013-08-26T17:11:14Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Eh, I’m not sure it’s very revealing. I often leave details out if my stories and I’ve never committed murder or any other criminal act. Todd’s already halfway through the story when the scene starts. For all we know, Todd was telling the story because his uncle asked him, “What the heck were you doing out in the desert that time you shot the kid and took his spider?” ---
**Author:** ![SuperNelson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@SuperNelson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperNelson)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/190 "2013-08-26T17:18:03Z")
I’ve been thinking more about that machine gun. Given that Gilligan’s described this show as Mr. Chips turns to Scarface, the obvious play would be Walter spraying the gun around while yelling, “Say hello to my little friend!” But that’s counter to how almost everything else has happened on this show. In the flash-forwards, Walt seemed to be going out of his way to be noticed, while using a false name and ID. He was dressed very much like Todd or one of Todd’s cohorts. Any chance Walt ends up pulling an elaborate scam to set up the neo-nazis in a weapons case? Bringing in, say ATF to outflank Hank and the DEA? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/191 "2013-08-26T17:19:34Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Great episode, as usual, but I just wanted to say I think the idea of doing a comedic spin-off about Saul (an idea that’s been floated around) is an absolutely horrible idea. I hope they’re smart enough to just leave the show to stand on its own once it ends. What are you talkin’ about? _“Mr. Show”_ was great! 😃 RE: Lydia’s shoes. This is how we’ll learn she has been killed. The camera will pan down and we’ll see a pair of heels sticking out of a shallow grave or something like that. Predicted that the first time I saw her feet. ---
**Author:** ![GrizzRich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ba0ec/32.png) [@GrizzRich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrizzRich)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/192 "2013-08-26T17:25:18Z")
No way Hank could try to come clean at this point. He’s been like a dog with a bone about the blue-meth case and he knows that there’s dozens of other agents officers like him that’ll stop at nothing to find “the truth”. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/193 "2013-08-26T17:27:02Z")
> [@SuperNelson](#): > > Todd’s already halfway through the story when the scene starts. For all we know, Todd was telling the story because his uncle asked him, “What the heck were you doing out in the desert that time you shot the kid and took his spider?” Exactly. I don’t think this is very revealing about Todd. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/194 "2013-08-26T17:45:47Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > What are you talkin’ about? _“Mr. Show”_ was great! 😃 > > RE: Lydia’s shoes. This is how we’ll learn she has been killed. The camera will pan down and we’ll see a pair of heels sticking out of a shallow grave or something like that. Predicted that the first time I saw her feet. Maybe a house from Kansas falls on her. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/195 "2013-08-26T18:07:57Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > The scene with Skyler thanking the customer for his honesty – she’s gotta be thinking of how far she’s fallen. I thought it might be a small way to get rid of the blood money, like Jesse but on a smaller scale. Oh, and just be different, I predict Walt will still be alive at the final fade to black. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/196 "2013-08-26T18:09:07Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I guess I am alone, but I really think it wouldn’t take much investigating to realize Walt’s confession was full of shit. The biggest hole is that if Hank is the kingpin he should have a mountain of money. Where is it? Granted, he could have hidden it like Gus did. Another problem is if it was his own product he wouldn’t want to keep bringing up the blue meth/Heisenberg when his superior wanted him to drop it. There are some other things that make him look fishy that Walt didn’t mention though, like Hank resisting promotion to stay in the ABQ (gotta keep that empire running) or that he supposedly just randomly came across Tuco (rival drug dealer) and capped him. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/197 "2013-08-26T18:19:44Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Oh, and just be different, I predict Walt will still be alive at the final fade to black. I’d bet against it, but it’s not impossible. But if he’s alive, he’s lost everything and it’ll be even bleaker than seeing Jesse shoot him or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/198 "2013-08-26T18:30:18Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > The biggest hole is that if Hank is the kingpin he should have a mountain of money. Where is it? Granted, he could have hidden it like Gus did. Another problem is if it was his own product he wouldn’t want to keep bringing up the blue meth/Heisenberg when his superior wanted him to drop it. > > There are some other things that make him look fishy that Walt didn’t mention though, like Hank resisting promotion to stay in the ABQ (gotta keep that empire running) or that he supposedly just randomly came across Tuco (rival drug dealer) and capped him. Exactly. Hank has some problems, but being confused for the drug kingpin controlling Walt’s life is not really one of them. ---
**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/199 "2013-08-26T18:32:32Z")
> [@Sauron](#): > > Wouldn’t it be great if we find out at the end of this show that Hank really IS a major drug kingpin, and he’s been laying low the whole time waiting for Fring to retire or die so he can make his move? Breaking Bad finale as written by M. Night Shyamalan. ---
**Author:** ![Shark\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shark\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark_Sandwich)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/200 "2013-08-26T18:44:48Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Exactly. Hank has some problems, but being confused for the drug kingpin controlling Walt’s life is not really one of them. Your theory that if Hank was a drug kingpin he wouldn’t have to borrow money from Walt doesn’t wash. If Hank was the drug kingpin, he wouldn’t be able to use his own money to cover the cost of the therapy, as it would lead to questions from the DEA. The only way would be to borrow it from someone, take a 2nd mortgage, etc. It lends credibility to Walt’s story. Also, keep in mind that Hank knows his career is done. He might even know that while Walt’s “confession” may cause him some problems, it’s probably something he’ll be cleared of after an investigation. But that doesn’t matter. Hank wants to get his man. And from what he knows (whether it’s true or not remains to be seen), his suspect only has a few months to live. He doesn’t have the luxury of getting into some lengthy investigation. Time’s not on his side. He needs a confession or hard evidence to put Walt away before he kicks the bucket. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959.md?page=11)