# Breaking Bad 5.11 "Confessions" 8/25/13

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**Created:** [August 23, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959 "2013-08-23T13:02:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/161 "2013-08-26T15:25:25Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> BTW, did anyone notice [Lydia’s](http://24.media.tumblr.com/e8e2d79be05f12089f832e48dc4ade2e/tumblr_mrrgwa39o71qzpxx1o1_1280.jpg) [shoes](http://24.media.tumblr.com/5d39dddabb5f63c985a6bf63e4e8ddbd/tumblr_mruroyZXfm1soxforo1_400.gif) in the previous episode?

Yes. Yes, I did. I have somewhat of a shoe fetish, saw those and immediately thought, “Now which designer did the red soles again? Those are so hot.” They’re Christian Louboutin’s signature red-sole design.

I’m a little bit embarrassed to know that much about shoes. But those were awesome.

Shoedazzle did a knock-off with hot pink sole shoes, which looked gorgeous, but I found them to be unwearable.

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/162 "2013-08-26T15:26:35Z")

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> [@Sauron](#):
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> Wouldn’t it be great if we find out at the end of this show that Hank really IS a major drug kingpin, and he’s been laying low the whole time waiting for Fring to retire or die so he can make his move?

I think that would be a horrible, nonsensical ending.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/163 "2013-08-26T15:27:32Z")

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> [@Dogzilla](#):
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> Yes. Yes, I did. I have somewhat of a shoe fetish, saw those and immediately thought, “Now which designer did the red soles again? Those are so hot.” They’re Christian Louboutin’s signature red-sole design.
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> I’m a little bit embarrassed to know that much about shoes. But those were awesome.
> 
> Shoedazzle did a knock-off with hot pink sole shoes, which looked gorgeous, but I found them to be unwearable.

Oh, yeah. 😛

I was just thinking about the fact that she was sort of stepping in blood.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/164 "2013-08-26T15:30:55Z")

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Yet another amazing episode. There are many TV shows I enjoy but do other things while watching them, but with Breaking Bad my eyes can’t look away from it.

> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> If you work on the assumption that they take Hank’s side and believe that Walt is lying, will they side with Marie and Hank when they say that they made up a story about it being gambling winnings? The real trick would be for two fold IMO 1)have the DEA pick up Walt Jr ‘for questioning’ and ask him where his parents got all that money and have him sign a statement saying so and 2)Have Hank promise to make a good faith effort to pay back the money to the DEA. Since it’s just money that they’d confiscate anyways, he could probably pay it off at some ridiculously low rate like $10 a week with no interest. Although $100 a week would pay it off in about 35 years.

Could the DEA question Walt Jr without his parents? I don’t remember if he’s 17 or 18, or if that would make a difference since he’s still in high school. But that’s true that Walt Jr could confirm that Walt had been claiming it was gambling money and that that’s what Hank and Marie thought the money was from.

Speaking of Walt Jr, I did like how Skyler and Walt were referring to him as Jr or Walt Jr, and Marie was referring to him as Flynn. I don’t remember if Hank said his name.

What money does Hank have to pay back to the DEA? He unknowingly took money from Walt for rehab, but that wasn’t money that is owed to the DEA.

I don’t really see any best case scenario where Hank keeps his current job at the DEA once the truth about Heisenberg comes out. Most likely he’s fired. Maybe he could keep some low-level job, but that seems like it would be difficult for people to trust him with.

> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> Not to rain on anyone’s parade, but am I the only one who felt that the whole thing with Jesse lighting up and Huell taking the dope, leading to Jesse’s realization, felt just a wee bit contrived? Like the seams were showing a bit too much, writing-wise?

It didn’t really bother me, but I could see how it bothered other people. I think I’ve seen it before and it seems plausible to me that the “cleaner” person who comes in will have very strict rules that the client will have to follow about being relocated, or he won’t do it. If the client won’t follow the rules, then the relocation won’t do any good and the police or whatever bad guys will be able to find the client again easily, so it’s essential the client follows the rules.

Saul is very much on edge. He knows that Walt wants Jesse gone, and doesn’t know what Walt will do if Jesse doesn’t disappear. Saul wants everything to go smoothly, so he gets Huell to take the dope. If he’d had more time and wasn’t freaking out so much, he might have realized that it wasn’t a great idea, since it might make Jesse realize what had happened before, but Saul was pressed for time. It might not be the smoothest plot, but it worked for me.

> [@DoctorJ](#):
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> Out of the two of them, which one is the hothead and which one is the beta male? (To the outside observer, not to us.) Who is more likely to have connections to the underworld? Specifically, which one was more likely to have had a connection with Gus Fring, a vocal DEA supporter?

Ooh, I had forgotten about Fring being a vocal DEA supporter. That is bad for Hank.

Walt’s confession isn’t something that will get Hank thrown in jail for a lifetime sentence for being Heisenberg. But it is something that would cause a lot of trouble for him and destroy his career at the very least.

> [@Stephe96](#):
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> So Walt nearly killed Brock to manipulate Jesse. I wonder if Jesse will now manipulate Walt by threatening Walt Jr? Maybe Junior is home as Jesse douses the place with gasoline.

I don’t think Jesse could ever hurt an innocent. If Junior is home, that’s what would get Jesse to stop from burning the place.

Walt nearly killed Brock because kids are one of Jesse’s weaknesses. While Walt’s main weakness is his pride. The way for Jesse to get back at Walt is his pride, but I’m not sure how he’d do that.

> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> I think the whole thing would look very fishy. And Hank’s big defense is what, stupidity and malfeasance?
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> “I’m the regional head of the DEA, and I just never figured out my brother-in-law was a drug kingpin until recently, and I didn’t know he was using drug money to pay my medical bills. Honest mistake!”
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> “Wait, you want to know why he would make such a self-incriminating video, if he didn’t think anyone was on to him? Welll…okay, he did know that I knew.”
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> “Um, what was that again? Oh, right: why was I not telling anyone else at the DEA that I had found out Walt was a big drug kingpin? Oh, okay, I see where you’re going with this: you think I was covering for him. Nononononono: I wanted to tip HIM off that I was after him, but then not tell any other cops, so I could, uh…catch him better?”
> 
> “Ookayyy…I’m boned.”

Yeah, even if Hank tells the complete truth and his bosses believe him, it doesn’t look good. It makes him look fairly incompetent.

> [@Edward\_The\_Head](#):
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> I saw that as Skyler trying to GIVE away the money she’s laundered, or can’t fully launder. She tells him “Thanks for being so honest”, and the next guy she says “Oh, you have exact change.” The way she looked and sounded she was basically trying to give money away and couldn’t even do that!

That’s what I thought too. She’s doing the same thing as Jesse, just to a smaller extent.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/165 "2013-08-26T15:31:08Z")

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I don’t think I have been very clear in my previous posts. Hank’s actions and association with Walt will certainly come into question by the DEA, should they ever find out about Walt. But the confession has nothing to do with that. The only threat the confession has to Hank is if the DEA gets its hands on it before hanks turns it over. The substance of the video is nonsense and easily proven nonsense. Now if Hanks was thinking clearly, which he isn’t, he would see that there is no real threat of the video. And in fact it kind of backs Hank into a corner, easily his best course of action is to turn it in and face the fallout. Jail is almost certainly not in his future. Expulsion from the DEA is a possibility, but unlikely if he cooperates fully, suspension most definitely while the investigation is going on., official reprimand, sure why not. Now probably the most damaging thing Hank has done to his career are his interactions with Skyler and Hank, this could damage the investigation considerably and is more likely to cost him his job than anything else. But not the video, or anything on it.

But does he really have to worry about Walt turning it in? Walt, who will go to extreme ends to protect his family and his legacy turning in a video that implicates himself quite fully and is full of unprovable allegations against his brother-in-law? Not likely, I think. He is relying on Hanks lack of common sense in this case, his almost manic attitude. It is a huge risk, because nothing about is provable to Hank and a lot of it is provable to Walt.

As to what Walt could have done. I dunno, he is in a tough spot, but then again, he has put himself there. The best thing would be to do what he is suggesting for Jessie, of course, for his whole family. But the thing is Walt wants to beat them, he doesn’t want to run, he wants to stay and fight. Pride comes before the fall.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/166 "2013-08-26T15:33:45Z")

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Can someone correct me if I am wrong, but lawyer/client privilege does not stand in the commission of a criminal act together, correct? Saul could roll on Walt easily if he was so inclined

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/167 "2013-08-26T15:40:20Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> But does he really have to worry about Walt turning it in? Walt, who will go to extreme ends to protect his family and his legacy turning in a video that implicates himself quite fully and is full of unprovable allegations against his brother-in-law? Not likely, I think. He is relying on Hanks lack of common sense in this case, his almost manic attitude.

I don’t think there’s any consideration of Walt unilaterally turning in this video if Hank leaves them alone. The video represents two things:

(1) This is what I will tell the DEA if I get arrested, and make things hot for you;

(2) If you were to decide to just kill me instead, my lawyer will turn over this video.

So it’s a no-risk proposition for Walt.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/168 "2013-08-26T15:43:47Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> I don’t think I have been very clear in my previous posts. Hank’s actions and association with Walt will certainly come into question by the DEA, should they ever find out about Walt. But the confession has nothing to do with that. The only threat the confession has to Hank is if the DEA gets its hands on it before hanks turns it over. The substance of the video is nonsense and easily proven nonsense. Now if Hanks was thinking clearly, which he isn’t, he would see that there is no real threat of the video. And in fact it kind of backs Hank into a corner, easily his best course of action is to turn it in and face the fallout. Jail is almost certainly not in his future. Expulsion from the DEA is a possibility, but unlikely if he cooperates fully, suspension most definitely while the investigation is going on., official reprimand, sure why not. Now probably the most damaging thing Hank has done to his career are his interactions with Skyler and Hank, this could damage the investigation considerably and is more likely to cost him his job than anything else. But not the video, or anything on it.

I think there is enough truth on the video that it wouldn’t be immediately dismissed:

[ul]  
[li]Walt does have cancer[/li][li]He went on a ride along with Hank[/li][li]There was a hit on Hank, and Hank survived it[/li][li]Walt paid for Hank’s rehab[/li][li]Gus Fring was connected to the DEA[/li][li]Fring was killed in an explosion, with a bomb made by Walt[/li][li]Walt’s kids were living at Hank’s house for some time[/li][/ul]

Other people at the DEA would know that these things are true, or could find out if they were true easily enough. So then it would take them more time to investigate the other things that Walt said.

I don’t think Hank would ever go to jail because of the video. But Hanks sees that it would slow the DEA down and cause problems for Hank. Instead of going after Walt, the DEA could be wasting their time going after Hank, and maybe then Walt would die of cancer instead of getting the justice he deserves.

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**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/169 "2013-08-26T15:45:30Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Can someone correct me if I am wrong, but lawyer/client privilege does not stand in the commission of a criminal act together, correct? Saul could roll on Walt easily if he was so inclined

Saul would have to answer for a lot of illicit dealings if he did that. He’d also lose the vast majority of his business that makes the big bucks, because none of his underworld connections would go anywhere near him again afterwards.

In fact, he probably wouldn’t live very long.

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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/170 "2013-08-26T15:46:41Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> Oh, yeah. 😛
> 
> I was just thinking about the fact that she was sort of stepping in blood.

Oh, I’m sure the choice of red-soled shoes was not coincidental or accidental. My brain went straight to “Oh! there’s those Louboutin red-soled shoes” instead of “Oh! red soles = getting your feet dirty… in _blood_.”

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/171 "2013-08-26T15:49:30Z")

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> [@Dogzilla](#):
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> Oh, I’m sure the choice of red-soled shoes was not coincidental or accidental. My brain went straight to “Oh! there’s those Louboutin red-soled shoes” instead of “Oh! red soles = getting your feet dirty… in _blood_.”

Too bad the title _Red Shoe Diaries_ is taken. Or that could have been a Lydia spinoff.

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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/172 "2013-08-26T15:53:38Z")

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Remember the scene after Hank and Marie watched the video and she confesses she accepted the meth money for his rehab. Hank knew right there, that was the last nail in the coffin “You killed me”. Because even if the DEA investigates every single claim in the video and proves it all bullshit, the fact of the matter is: Hank accepted dirty drug money for his rehab (whether he knew the source of the money or not). It looks like he took a bribe to keep quiet. Prove he _didn’t_ accept that money as a bribe. I would think he might see jail time or at least charges just for that alone, nevermind keeping it quiet.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/173 "2013-08-26T16:09:35Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> Funny how Todd “forgot” to mention one little detail in his story about the Great Train Robbery.

Why would he confess even to fellow criminals regarding his role in murdering a child whose disappearance was all over the news? That’s not funny. It’s just sensible. The first thing those guys would do is spread the damn story. Do you think Todd somehow owed them every detail?

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/174 "2013-08-26T16:13:05Z")

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Please help me clear up a disagreement with my friend. I’ve thought this entire time that Hank is Skyler’s blood brother, but my friend thinks Skyler and Marie are blood sisters. Which is it?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/175 "2013-08-26T16:14:07Z")

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> [@](#):
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> But does he really have to worry about Walt turning it in? Walt, who will go to extreme ends to protect his family and his legacy turning in a video that implicates himself quite fully and is full of unprovable allegations against his brother-in-law? Not likely, I think.

The confession video might not be enough evidence to put Hank in prison, but enough if it is true that he would be under a cloud of suspicion for the rest of his life, and certainly make the next few years of his life a living hell as he’s being investigated.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/176 "2013-08-26T16:14:11Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Why would he confess even to fellow criminals regarding his role in murdering a child whose disappearance was all over the news? That’s not funny. It’s just sensible. The first thing those guys would do is spread the damn story. Do you think Todd somehow owed them every detail?

No, I agree that it was sensible.

It’s interesting, though. You know you’ve done something really shitty when you can’t even talk about it to a group of mass-murdering neo-nazi gangsters.

I can kind of picture the scene. “Oh. and by the way, then I killed an innocent kid.” Uncle’s face suddenly goes dead serious. “Hey, whoa, Todd, that’s… not cool.”

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/177 "2013-08-26T16:16:10Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> No, I agree that it was sensible.
> 
> It’s interesting, though. You know you’ve done something really shitty when you can’t even talk about it to a bunch of mass-murdering neo-nazi gangsters.

Eh, I’m not sure it’s very revealing. I often leave details out if my stories and I’ve never committed murder or any other criminal act.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/178 "2013-08-26T16:16:49Z")

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> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#):
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> Please help me clear up a disagreement with my friend. I’ve thought this entire time that Hank is Skyler’s blood brother, but my friend thinks Skyler and Marie are blood sisters. Which is it?

Marie is Skyler’s sister.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/179 "2013-08-26T16:19:11Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Marie is Skyler’s sister.

Yes.

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**Author:** ![edwards\_beard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-11-confessions-8-25-13/666959/180 "2013-08-26T16:26:53Z")

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> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#):
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> Please help me clear up a disagreement with my friend. I’ve thought this entire time that Hank is Skyler’s blood brother, but my friend thinks Skyler and Marie are blood sisters. Which is it?

Skyler and Marie are sisters.

Walt used Skyler’s maiden name as his alias at the beginning of Season 5.

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