# Breaking Bad 5.13 "To'hajiilee" 9/8/13 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 9, 2013, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375 "2013-09-09T01:29:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/361 "2013-09-13T17:42:45Z")
“Everybody’s talkin’ at me I can’t hear a word they’re saying…” ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/362 "2013-09-13T17:56:07Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Todd has that kind of “mold your own” sorta handsome face that’s pretty forgettable. Sick bastard! I think of him as a poor man’s Matt Damon. ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/363 "2013-09-13T17:59:40Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > “Everybody’s talkin’ at me > I can’t hear a word they’re saying…” Just drivin’ around in Jon Voigt’s car? > [@gigi](#): > > I think of him as a poor man’s Matt Damon. Or, as I’ve seen elsewhere on the internet, “Meth Damon”. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/364 "2013-09-13T18:11:53Z")
Interestingly, Todd displayed a cruel bullying streak [at a very young age](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llPcBWI_EUE). More seriously, for those who haven’t seen it, Jesse Plemons (who plays Todd) is also in the wonderful **Friday Night Lights** , playing a gentle geeky high school student. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/365 "2013-09-13T18:30:05Z")
There was a scene (I think in season 4) with Walt and his son watching _Scarface._ Walt said something along the lines of: “I forgot, everyone dies in this movie”. So my prediction is that everyone dies: Hank, Gomez, Jesse, Walt, Todd and the Nazis, and Lydia too. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/366 "2013-09-13T18:39:20Z")
I don’t think Hank or Jesse will die in the shootout with the Nazis (Gomie will). But, I also don’t think Hank is going to live to see Marie again. If Jesse dies - and I still think he might not - it won’t be until the finale. But I really want to see Jesse outsmart Walt and redeem himself in the end. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/367 "2013-09-13T18:59:46Z")
I read in an article somewhere that (VERY BAD SPOILER BELOW) …Jesse shoots himself and dies But that was before the final 3 episodes began airing so I don’t know WTF that writer was talking about. Have you guys seen the Breaking Bad parody that Jimmy Fallon did? Because it’s absolutely freakin’ brilliant!! ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/368 "2013-09-13T19:43:13Z")
Hank is not a “good guy,” for crying out loud. He has forsaken his principles for his pride and prejudice, just as Walt and everyone else has. Walt is the focus of this narrative, but in the sense that he represents what is present in varying degrees in _everyone_: he’s venal and self-serving, despite convincing himself he’s a man of integrity. Hank has lost his way, just as everyone else in the show has. To miss this idea is to miss the principal theme of the story. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/369 "2013-09-13T19:56:05Z")
In the Talking Bad recap show, I think Chris Hardwick described Gomez as the only clean character in the show. I’m not sure whether he forgot about Walt Jr or he considers him unclean, because I thought Walt Jr was fairly innocent. (He is driving a car bought with the proceeds of his father’s crimes, but he doesn’t know that.) ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/370 "2013-09-13T20:57:58Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I’m not sure whether he forgot about Walt Jr or he considers him unclean, because I thought Walt Jr was fairly innocent. (He is driving a car bought with the proceeds of his father’s crimes, but he doesn’t know that.) Well, there was that one time in an early episode when he asked an undercover cop to buy beer for him and his friends. Not sure which circle of Hell that will land you in. Maybe you’ll get a quick peek into Hell’s waiting room to scare you straight. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/371 "2013-09-13T21:02:12Z")
> [@Martian Bigfoot](#): > > Yes. > > [SPOILER][It’s the location of Q studios in Albuquerque, where the show is filmed.](http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/breaking-bad-gps-coordinates-lead-studio-where-show-was-shot-111771) > > [(Google Maps)](https://www.google.com/maps/preview?authuser=0#!q=34+59+20+-+106+36+52&data=!1m4!1m3!1d2737!2d-106.6145249!3d34.9888318!4m10!1m9!4m8!1m3!1d21836550!2d-95.677068!3d37.0625!3m2!1i1366!2i643!4f13.1) > [/SPOILER] You see, its _completely unrealistic_ shit like **this** that ruins this show for me and makes in nearly unwatchable! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/372 "2013-09-13T21:05:02Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Has anybody plugged those GPS coordinates into Google Earth to see what they really are? > > I don’t give a fuck enough to actually do it myself. 😃 > [@Martian Bigfoot](#): > > Yes. > > [SPOILER][It’s the location of Q studios in Albuquerque, where the show is filmed.](http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/breaking-bad-gps-coordinates-lead-studio-where-show-was-shot-111771) > > [(Google Maps)](https://www.google.com/maps/preview?authuser=0#!q=34+59+20+-+106+36+52&data=!1m4!1m3!1d2737!2d-106.6145249!3d34.9888318!4m10!1m9!4m8!1m3!1d21836550!2d-95.677068!3d37.0625!3m2!1i1366!2i643!4f13.1) > [/SPOILER] They actually made a point of announcing this the day after “Buried” aired. I think they wanted to make sure a bunch of people didn’t go crazy and flock to the studio or get lost in the desert looking for some kind of prize. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/373 "2013-09-13T22:40:35Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > They actually made a point of announcing this the day after “Buried” aired. I think they wanted to make sure a bunch of people didn’t go crazy and flock to the studio or get lost in the desert looking for some kind of prize. Like that [Japanese lady who died (supposedly) looking for the _Fargo_ loot](http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2003/jun/06/artsfeatures1). ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/374 "2013-09-14T01:22:23Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > In the Talking Bad recap show, I think Chris Hardwick described Gomez as the only clean character in the show. I’m not sure whether he forgot about Walt Jr or he considers him unclean, because I thought Walt Jr was fairly innocent. (He is driving a car bought with the proceeds of his father’s crimes, but he doesn’t know that.) Gomez was clean, but he broke bad with Hank. Walt Jr. is a vacuous teenager, himself an unholy mixture of innocence and corruption, if only in his attitude towards the world. Molly is the only true innocent, but only temporarily. ---
**Author:** ![Lubricious\_Integument](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/82dd89/32.png) [@Lubricious\_Integument](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lubricious_Integument)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/375 "2013-09-14T13:50:26Z")
> [@Subterraneanus](#): > > Gomez was clean, but he broke bad with Hank. Walt Jr. is a vacuous teenager, himself an unholy mixture of innocence and corruption, if only in his attitude towards the world. Molly is the only true innocent, but only temporarily. No, she broke bad the instant she changed her name. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/376 "2013-09-14T19:16:04Z")
[Breakfast](http://i.imgur.com/gWZ74Fy.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/377 "2013-09-14T19:43:46Z")
> [@Lubricious\_Integument](#): > > No, she broke bad the instant she changed her name. And let’s not forget driving around the pool with no sunscreen on! Kid’s gonna be a burden to the taxpayers, that one. ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2013, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/378 "2013-09-14T22:14:31Z")
The current issue of “The New Yorker” has an interview with Bryan Cranston about his acting life. It features how he got into the business, where his breaks came in, and what his post Breaking Bad career may entail. There were 2 things that stood out in the article. First, Vince Gilligan acknowledges that he purposely has Walt taking on Gus’ calm and cool persona. He states outright that he threw in a few things for astute viewers. I took this as a reference to Bob Ducca’s theory. Second, there was a very brief mention of this Sunday’s episode, Ozymandias. Gilligan states that it’s the best episode of the entire series. Very excited to see it now! ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375/379 "2013-09-15T06:32:48Z")
> [@SeaCanary](#): > > Did anyone else notice in the shootout in To’hajilee that one of the skinheads was shooting an M-60? In the flash forward people think that Walt bought that M-60 in the trunk. > > Maybe not? No, he definitely bought it from the arms dealer, along with the car it was in. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-13-tohajiilee-9-8-13/668375.md?page=18)