# Breaking Bad 5.14 "Ozymandias" 9/15/13 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 15, 2013, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893 "2013-09-15T06:43:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/81 "2013-09-16T02:50:16Z")
When Skyler walked towards the kitchen island, I wasn’t sure if she was going for a knife or the cordless phone. And then when she picked up the knife, I thought for a moment that she intended to kill herself. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/82 "2013-09-16T02:50:35Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > On tape, he sent him into that situation with video cameras rolling. If Walt killed him, he could put him in jail based on that and be a happy man. If Jesse got hit by a car an hour before this went down Hank wouldn’t have said ‘oh well, one less tweaker to worry about’ Right, he would said ‘oh no, now we can’t get Walt.’ Put it this way: he was more concerned about nailing Walt than protecting Jesse. It was not his finest moment. ---
**Author:** ![Bumbershoot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbershoot/32/3428_2.png) [@Bumbershoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbershoot)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/83 "2013-09-16T02:51:35Z")
I noticed that it was the right side of Jesse’s face that was fucked up this time. Every other time he got the shit beat out of him, it was the left side of his face that took the abuse. Don’t know why I noticed that. I think Jesse will end up killing Todd. He should get to kill _somebody_ before it’s over. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/84 "2013-09-16T02:51:54Z")
When Skyler asked, “You killed Hank?” was anyone else expecting Walt to say “What’s one more?” ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/85 "2013-09-16T02:56:04Z")
> [@Bumbershoot](#): > > I noticed that it was the right side of Jesse’s face that was fucked up this time. Every other time he got the shit beat out of him, it was the left side of his face that took the abuse. Don’t know why I noticed that. > > I think Jesse will end up killing Todd. He should get to kill _somebody_ before it’s over. I noticed that too. Is Todd or one of the Nazis left handed? Also, the marks on his face looked more like cuts or whip marks. The other times (or at least the other time he landed in the hospital with his eye swollen shut) he was hit. > [@Stephe96](#): > > When Skyler asked, “You killed Hank?” was anyone else expecting Walt to say “What’s one more?” When they kept asking where Hank was I wanted him to say “In a hole in the desert.” ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/86 "2013-09-16T02:56:27Z")
> [@Bumbershoot](#): > > I think Jesse will end up killing Todd. He should get to kill _somebody_ before it’s over. The applause would be deafening. > [@Stephe96](#): > > When Skyler asked, “You killed Hank?” was anyone else expecting Walt to say “What’s one more?” No. He was genuinely heartbroken about Hank. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/87 "2013-09-16T03:00:39Z")
> [@SuperNelson](#): > > I’m guessing the vacuum filter guy is going to relocate Walt to New Hampshire, where he will prepare for the final confrontation before returning to Albuquerque. The next episode going to be a montage of Walt punching slabs of beef, running up steps, and shooting targets out in the woods. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/88 "2013-09-16T03:01:43Z")
Well now my mind is racing with possibilities about what Walt’s gonna do with that big ass machine gun. I see really only one plausible possibility (I’ll spoiler it just in case no one wants to know my theory) Suicide rescue mission for Jesse ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/89 "2013-09-16T03:02:15Z")
> [@Bumbershoot](#): > > I noticed that it was the right side of Jesse’s face that was fucked up this time. Every other time he got the shit beat out of him, it was the left side of his face that took the abuse. Don’t know why I noticed that. > > I think Jesse will end up killing Todd. He should get to kill _somebody_ before it’s over. Gale doesn’t count? ---
**Author:** ![SuperNelson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@SuperNelson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperNelson)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/90 "2013-09-16T03:02:59Z")
After almost an hour to calm down, I find myself oddly saddened that we may have seen the last of Badger and Skinny Pete. Not that anything happened tonight to impact them; I just don’t see how there will be room to fit them in to the remaining two episodes. I guess the Star Trek scene was their swan song. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/91 "2013-09-16T03:04:07Z")
> [@Bumbershoot](#): > > I think Jesse will end up killing Todd. He should get to kill _somebody_ before it’s over. What’s Gale, chopped liver or something? _GAH!_ - Ninja’d by **Snarky\_Kong** ---
**Author:** ![Bumbershoot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbershoot/32/3428_2.png) [@Bumbershoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbershoot)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/92 "2013-09-16T03:07:02Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Gale doesn’t count? > [@zoid](#): > > What’s Gale, chopped liver or something? He didn’t really want to kill Gale. He wants to kill Walt and he wants to kill Todd. I think one of them will die at Jesse’s hand. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/93 "2013-09-16T03:07:14Z")
That was some cold shit between Walt and Jesse out in the desert. If there was any doubt that Jesse will come after Walt if he gets the chance, that quashed it. Jesse will survive somehow. Perhaps Walt will come after the Nazi boys for killing Hank (hence the M-60), and, thinking Jesse is dead, will not be expecting him to be there. Jesse kills Walt in the end. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/94 "2013-09-16T03:07:14Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Well now my mind is racing with possibilities about what Walt’s gonna do with that big ass machine gun. > I see really only one plausible possibility (I’ll spoiler it just in case no one wants to know my theory) > > Suicide rescue mission for Jesse I think we can rule that out based on the last few minutes of last week’s episode and the first few weeks of this one. I still think Walt has to come back to protect his family. The only other possibility I can see would be destroying some final piece of evidence, but with Hank dead and most of the money gone that may have taken care of itself. > [@SuperNelson](#): > > After almost an hour to calm down, I find myself oddly saddened that we may have seen the last of Badger and Skinny Pete. Not that anything happened tonight to impact them; I just don’t see how there will be room to fit them in to the remaining two episodes. I guess the Star Trek scene was their swan song. If so they went out on a hi oh fuck it I’m too sad to make this pun. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/95 "2013-09-16T03:10:58Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I think we can rule that out based on the last few minutes of last week’s episode and the first few weeks of this one. I think he’ll have a change of heart. Perhaps I’m wrong. Maybe he’ll go all Rambo and try to take back his money from the Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/96 "2013-09-16T03:17:13Z")
For those pondering the significance of the name “Holly”: It is also Vince Gilligan’s girlfriend’s name. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/97 "2013-09-16T03:20:25Z")
Just finished watching… Oh, god, that was gut-wrenching! I just want to curl into a ball and cry. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/98 "2013-09-16T03:21:11Z")
> [@Martian Bigfoot](#): > > For those pondering the significance of the name “Holly”: It is also > > Vince Gilligan’s girlfriend’s name. [There’s also an X Files episode featuring a Holly.](http://x-files.wikia.com/wiki/Unusual_Suspects) Guess who wrote it. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/99 "2013-09-16T03:24:04Z")
I also thought a cool teaser opening to this episode might have been the lights flashing on that empty fire truck. ---
**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893/100 "2013-09-16T03:29:43Z")
No matter how great the next two episodes are, I won’t be fully satisfied unless Jesse kills Todd. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-14-ozymandias-9-15-13/668893.md?page=6)