# Breaking Bad 5.16 "Felina" 9/29/13 SERIES FINALE **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 24, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591 "2013-09-24T17:31:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![lesh17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc348/32.png) [@lesh17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lesh17)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/181 "2013-09-30T02:18:16Z")
Wow. Speechless. They absolutely, completely nailed the finale. And now I’m going to miss the cruel insane greatness of Breaking Bad. _applause_ ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/182 "2013-09-30T02:18:23Z")
Fuck yes. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/183 "2013-09-30T02:18:44Z")
I’m so glad Lydia got it, it would have sucked if she walked. ETA - love, _love_, **LOVE** that Jessie got to finish that douche Todd ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/184 "2013-09-30T02:18:57Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Shot by the M60. I _thought_ he was hit by a piece of shrapnel, and not an actual bullet. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/185 "2013-09-30T02:18:58Z")
Whew! It’s been 40 miles of bad road, and damned if we didn’t enjoy (almost) every bump along the way, but it’s over. And it is good. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/186 "2013-09-30T02:20:18Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > I’m so glad Lydia got it, it would have sucked if she walked. But why did he have to tell her about the ricin? Can’t she now just call 911 and get the antidote? Obviously she would have to answer a lot of questions about how she got poisoned, but she doesn’t have to die, right? Glad to see Todd get his, though. Fitting. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/187 "2013-09-30T02:20:38Z")
That last shot of Walt echoed that crazy last shot (with Walt laughing hysterically as the camera went up and away from him) in “Crawlspace”- I think at least one Doper predicted that. The camera moved away from him the same way and then with the cage it looked like he was in the center of crosshairs. He said he felt alive making meth and he died in a meth lab. I guess that fits. Hoo man. I’m glad Jesse got away and I enjoyed, maybe a little too much, Jesse strangling Todd. I’ve been rooting for that since the first time we saw Jesse chained up. But I think the thing that’s going to stick with me the most is how sad this one was. The scenes with Walt and Skyler in particular, but a lot of the others, too. He looked forlorn and pathetic in a way he hasn’t since the very beginning of the series. A couple of times the glasses distorted his eyes in a very particular way that was very sad. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/188 "2013-09-30T02:22:09Z")
Dumb question: The early scene of Jesse in the woodshop; was that a flashback to him in high school? And Vince said in the Talking Bad program that he deliberately wanted to tie up all the loose ends. I wish other television show writers would follow his example. ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/189 "2013-09-30T02:22:56Z")
Gilligan wrote & directed this great episode . Wow. Loved the scene with Walt & Hollly. Loved Jesse’s last scenes. What a release. Glad Walt gave skyler the coordinates. Loved that ending song. Just loved the ending. So emotional ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/190 "2013-09-30T02:23:04Z")
> [@Alice\_The\_Goon](#): > > But why did he have to tell her about the ricin? Can’t she now just call 911 and get the antidote? Obviously she would have to answer a lot of questions about how she got poisoned, but she doesn’t have to die, right? > > Glad to see Todd get his, though. Fitting. No antidote exists. [http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/ricin/qa.asp](http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/ricin/qa.asp) ---
**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/191 "2013-09-30T02:23:24Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Dumb question: The early scene of Jesse in the woodshop; was that a flashback to him in high school? I think it was a rehab where he made a wooden box. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/192 "2013-09-30T02:23:51Z")
Loved it. Completely satisfied. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/193 "2013-09-30T02:24:14Z")
> [@Alice\_The\_Goon](#): > > But why did he have to tell her about the ricin? Can’t she now just call 911 and get the antidote? Obviously she would have to answer a lot of questions about how she got poisoned, but she doesn’t have to die, right? AFAIK, there is no real antidote. They can provide supportive care and hope you get through it, but that’s about it. I agree that they totally stuck the landing. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/194 "2013-09-30T02:24:47Z")
> [@Alice\_The\_Goon](#): > > But why did he have to tell her about the ricin? Can’t she now just call 911 and get the antidote? Obviously she would have to answer a lot of questions about how she got poisoned, but she doesn’t have to die, right? > > Glad to see Todd get his, though. Fitting. Ricin has no antidote. I’m guessing that Hank new that by that time it was too late, she was already as good as dead. ---
**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/195 "2013-09-30T02:24:50Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Dumb question: The early scene of Jesse in the woodshop; was that a flashback to him in high school? > > And Vince said in the Talking Bad program that he deliberately wanted to tie up all the loose ends. I wish other television show writers would follow his example. During one of his NA meetings, Jesse told the story of the time he hand-crafted a wooden jewelry box in shop, intending to give it to his mother as a gift, but ended up selling it to buy drugs. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/196 "2013-09-30T02:25:46Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Ricin has no antidote. I’m guessing that Hank new that by that time it was too late, she was already as good as dead. Walt. Not Hank. > [@newcomer](#): > > I think it was a rehab where he made a wooden box. High school. The one thing he did that he worked hard at and was proud. And sold it for drugs. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/197 "2013-09-30T02:26:17Z")
Does Jesse walk away with any money or is he back to broke with nothing to show for all of this? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/198 "2013-09-30T02:27:43Z")
> [@Alice\_The\_Goon](#): > > But why did he have to tell her about the ricin? Can’t she now just call 911 and get the antidote? Obviously she would have to answer a lot of questions about how she got poisoned, but she doesn’t have to die, right? I suppose it depends on how much he gave her, but it’s possible. I’ve looked this up several times in the last few weeks and I hope it doesn’t get me into trouble with the NSA, but ricin usually takes three to five days to kill and she’d been poisoned about a day and a half earlier. If you like, and I think I like, you can tell yourself she was calling Todd because she wants to go to the hospital and she’s too sick to get herself there. Maybe by the time an ambulance arrives it’ll be too late. But hey, she gets to die at home so her daughter doesn’t think she abandoned her. > [@zoid](#): > > Ricin has no antidote. I’m guessing that Hank new that by that time it was too late, she was already as good as dead. Oh. In that case she’ll die miserably and it’s no less than she deserves. > [@zoid](#): > > Does Jesse walk away with any money or is he back to broke with nothing to show for all of this? No, there’s no money. And he suffered some unimaginable trauma over the course of the show, but no more Walt and no more meth, at least. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/199 "2013-09-30T02:28:16Z")
> [@Alice\_The\_Goon](#): > > But why did he have to tell her about the ricin? Can’t she now just call 911 and get the antidote? Obviously she would have to answer a lot of questions about how she got poisoned, but she doesn’t have to die, right? I’m no doctor, [but I think Lydia is fucking toast.](http://www.medicinenet.com/ricin/page3.htm#how_ricin_poisoning_is_treated) ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/200 "2013-09-30T02:30:36Z")
Wow. Shakespeare lost - by that I mean Walt was given the chance to redeem himself at the end of the story. I expected Jesse to die and Walt to pay for his hubris a lot more. It worked, but not in a classic tragedy way. Gotta ponder that… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591.md?page=11)