# Breaking Bad 5.16 "Felina" 9/29/13 SERIES FINALE **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 24, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591 "2013-09-24T17:31:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/641 "2013-10-01T19:58:23Z")
I took the fact that Flynn was living with Skyler as evidence they had repaired their relationship. I am sure Marie would have let him live him with her if he wanted. ---
**Author:** ![edwards\_beard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/642 "2013-10-01T20:01:25Z")
> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#): > > Question - Why didn’t Skyler & Flynn (I wouldn’t want to be Walt Jr. at this point either) move in with Marie? Thoughts? I assumed they were not on speaking terms…I thought when Marie called the first words she said on the machine were…“Skyler…truce.” ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/643 "2013-10-01T20:02:26Z")
> [@edwards\_beard](#): > > I assumed they were not on speaking terms…I thought when Marie called the first words she said on the machine were…“Skyler…truce.” I thought she said “truce” too, which surprised me. I expected them to really come together after Walt was gone and Hank was dead. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/644 "2013-10-01T20:05:12Z")
> [@Martian Bigfoot](#): > > I always liked Lydia. Firstly, she was such a fun character. Secondly, she was the only female character with as much balls as the show’s brigade of bald macho men. She was fun but she needed to go. She would want to kill anyone who’d ever seen her face. No way could Walt take out Jack and crew without also getting rid of her. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/645 "2013-10-01T20:07:28Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Yes. It comes from Marty Robbins’ song “El Paso:” Felina is the name of the woman the narrator loves. That’s the song Walt hears when he turns on the stolen car (just to drive the point home, the cassette falls out of the glove compartment). I dismissed the theory because Robbins spelled her name “Feleena,” but there you go. [The lyrics relate to the episode in a couple of different ways.](http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/robbins-marty/el-paso-11889.html) The last lyric we heard in the teaser was “Maybe tomorrow a bullet may find me,” for instance. Also, the woman in the Marty Robbins song is spelled slightly differently (Feleena, maybe?) and the change in spelling for the episode title adds a nice little twist in becoming a combination of three chemicals: Fe Li Na. If you take the song literally, Walt’s lost love is the chemistry - which makes sense considering the very end of the episode. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/646 "2013-10-01T20:11:54Z")
[Vince Gilligan describes 5 alternate endings.](http://www.thewrap.com/breaking-bad-vince-gilligan-shares-5-alternate-endings/) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/647 "2013-10-01T20:17:36Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Also, the woman in the Marty Robbins song is spelled slightly differently (Feleena, maybe?) and the change in spelling for the episode title adds a nice little twist in becoming a combination of three chemicals: Fe Li Na. > > If you take the song literally, Walt’s lost love is the chemistry - which makes sense considering the very end of the episode. Vince Gilligan was on The Colbert Report last night, and he confirmed that Walt’s lost love is either the blue meth or the lab itself. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/648 "2013-10-01T20:23:18Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Also, the woman in the Marty Robbins song is spelled slightly differently (Feleena, maybe?) and the change in spelling for the episode title adds a nice little twist in becoming a combination of three chemicals: Fe Li Na. Robbins later wrong a song named “Feleena (From El Paso)” about the same character, so I’d say that’s the canonical spelling. I’m guessing the writers didn’t check- or maybe they preferred a spelling that could be interpreted several ways. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/649 "2013-10-01T20:24:18Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Vince Gilligan was on The Colbert Report last night, and he confirmed that Walt’s lost love is either the blue meth or the lab itself. He… that’s right, him, Walter Fucking White!.. made the best god-damned meth on the planet. Let 'em bite on that. Makes perfect sense for Heisenberg’s dying thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/650 "2013-10-01T20:41:04Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Vince Gilligan was on The Colbert Report last night, and he confirmed that Walt’s lost love is either the blue meth or the lab itself. When Gus first showed him the lab below the laundry I knew he was going to take the job instantly, if just to have that lab. As a lab rat myself, who just set up my own new lab this year, there is nothing, _nothing_ as sweet and magical as your own lab. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/651 "2013-10-01T21:03:09Z")
The funny thing is that Walt is so proud of his knowledge and abilities as a chemist and was so proud of that lab. But the lab is really just a small-scale pharmaceutical plant. A factory in other words. And the work he was doing in the lab amounted to working as a technician in a pharmaceutical plant. Once the process was defined, really you could train anyone to do it. (Perhaps that’s why he was offended at the results that Todd was getting with Jesse’s assistance.) ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/652 "2013-10-01T21:08:35Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The funny thing is that Walt is so proud of his knowledge and abilities as a chemist and was so proud of that lab. But the lab is really just a small-scale pharmaceutical plant. A factory in other words. And the work he was doing in the lab amounted to working as a technician in a pharmaceutical plant. Once the process was defined, really you could train anyone to do it. (Perhaps that’s why he was offended at the results that Todd was getting with Jesse’s assistance.) I would agree if it was in a completely controlled environment with no room for error or outside influence on the process. But part of what makes (sorry, made) Walt so great at this is that he knows exactly how to adjust things here or there to account for temperature, humidity, poor ingredients, etc. Any monkey can push a button in a factory - but Walt has to not only push that button but he also has to finesse each cook so that it’s the very best that it can be. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/653 "2013-10-01T21:14:01Z")
> [@DragonAsh](#): > > His last words to Uncle Jack before Jack was going to have him sent out back to get shot was stall by saying that ‘you owe me, you still haven’t killed Pinkman’. Despite coming clean and having a bit of self-awareness with Skyler, it doesn’t sound to me like Walt was harboring any good tidings for Jesse - until the moment he sees Jesse in chains, \*he still wanted to kill him. \* Huh. I thought he did it to get Jesse near him to make sure he would be OK, not because he wanted him killed. If they all died, the cops would get there and nab Jesse, so Walt was getting him out of there. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/654 "2013-10-01T21:14:34Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Any monkey can push a button in a factory …duhhhhh, Todd make meth now? ---
**Author:** ![zoog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7ea924/32.png) [@zoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoog)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/655 "2013-10-01T21:45:25Z")
The interview Gilligan did on Colbert last night was fun, but the [sign off sequence](http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/429398/september-30-2013/sign-off---more--breaking-bad-?xrs=eml_col_100113) was hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/656 "2013-10-01T22:00:37Z")
Some folks are claiming that they didn’t like the ending because it all worked out too well for Walt, but did it? Was dying part of his plan? I don’t know, I mean he did go to tell Skyler good-bye and did set up Walt Jr. with a trust fund. but maybe he was just planning on doing all that, shutting down the Nazis (killing/saving Jesse) and then heading back to NH. When he died “happy” I’m not so sure he was happy but kind of relieved, it was all over…and I mean all of it. ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/657 "2013-10-01T22:01:38Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > Heh. It was a modified quote from Fight Club. > I thought it fit the situation. Haven’t seen _Fight Club_, but I do know I’m not supposed to talk about it. ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/658 "2013-10-01T22:02:48Z")
> [@Quercus\_alba](#): > > Raisin Bran CRUNCH, bitches! Breaking Bran ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/659 "2013-10-01T22:32:47Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > Huh. I thought he did it to get Jesse near him to make sure he would be OK, not because he wanted him killed. If they all died, the cops would get there and nab Jesse, so Walt was getting him out of there. Why would Walt want or need Jesse to be OK? As far as he knew Uncle Jack and Jesse had partnered up. I’ll admit, there’s no one right answer here. Jesse wasn’t in the room when they initially brought Walt in, but Walt didn’t have his keys. So one could argue that Walt telling Jack that ‘he still owes him Jesse’ was just Walt stalling for time, trying to find a way to get to his keys, not Walt wanting to kill Jesse… but I don’t see anything in the episode up until he actually sees Jesse that tells me Walt was thinking, ‘Jesse’s alive and being kept prisoner, I’ll go save him’. I’ll have to watch it again, but did Walt get the keys before Jesse was brought in, or just as he was being brought in? I did think it rather odd that you have a guy that you’ve already said you’re going to shoot in the head - but they just leave Walt standing there, pretty much by himself? Seemed a bit odd, but that’s a small nit-pick. ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591/660 "2013-10-01T23:06:29Z")
[Huell: “Finale start yet?”](http://happyplace.someecards.com/26585/if-breaking-bad-took-place-entirely-on-facebook-series-finale) (In case it hasn’t been posted, the last BB facebook recap.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-16-felina-9-29-13-series-finale/669591.md?page=34)