# Breaking Bad 5.8 "Gliding Over All" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 3, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506 "2012-09-03T01:55:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![PeacePlease](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71c47a/32.png) [@PeacePlease](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeacePlease)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/321 "2012-09-06T07:26:50Z")
I swear that I’ve read _almost_ every page of this thread as a true BB fan…however, I was wondering if anyone brought up: When Jesse says “I know what you did” that it was a comment re: the fact that Walt gave Jesse the 5 million that he was owed? And that the duffel with the money on the porch was extra? Thoughts? Seriously, even though I thought the reveal to Hank was kinda weak…BEST SHOW EVER. P.S. How long do we actually have to wait for the final 8 episodes? 'Cause seriously, I could be dead by then and then I’d be pissed I didn’t know how this all turned out!!! ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/322 "2012-09-06T08:05:15Z")
> [@PeacePlease](#): > > I swear that I’ve read _almost_ every page of this thread as a true BB fan…however, I was wondering if anyone brought up: When Jesse says “I know what you did” that it was a comment re: the fact that Walt gave Jesse the 5 million that he was owed? And that the duffel with the money on the porch was extra? > > Thoughts? No… he’s talking about the prison hits Walt ordered. The money in the duffel bag was the $5 million owed to Jesse that he never got. It was Walt’s way of assuaging his guilt and also possibly making sure Jesse won’t have any incentive to rat him out (he doesn’t have to kill _everyone_). ---
**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/323 "2012-09-06T09:26:05Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > The Blue Meth won’t disappear, after three months Todd will be capable of cooking it and both Declan and the Czechs will be asking for more. But where is the methylamine going to come from? It’s virtually certain that the 1000 gallons is gone. Blue Sky is No Mas. According to Gilligan, there was about $80 million on that tarp. Walt was not only broke in the season opener, he was about 50 k or so in the hole. So all that money piled up in the space of three months. Walt told Declan in the desert that the methylamine was worth $300 million in his hands. Based on the percentages that Walt has been able to keep after each cook, that’s probably about right. Lydia gets 30%, Declan’s crew gets another 35%, Jesse got his $5 million, Todd and his crew have to be paid, probably a dozen people at the Czech end are on the payroll, etc. The bitch of it is that there’s not a single, solitary shred of physical evidence tying Walt to Fring, the Blue Sky, or anything else, from what we the viewers have been informed of. If Walt were really pressed, he could say he was a paid consultant, nothing more. He met with Gale only; he knows nothing about who Gale was working for. He withheld the fact that he knew Gale from Hank to avoid revealing his association with Gale and his employers. He can even use that to explain away his drunken braggadocio at the dinner party. As I’ve suggested before, the only thing linking Walt to Fring was the confrontation with Cynthia (the manager at Fring’s home store). Right now I’m thinking that it’s something that Jesse inadvertently says or does that starts to unravel the tapestry of Walt’s sordid past. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/324 "2012-09-06T12:16:32Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Hank’s got two options, walk away and pretend he doesn’t know, or talk Walt into cooperating to catch someone bigger and then try and hope the DEA are happy enough with a bigger bust to ignore the obvious. I can’t see Hank just walking away, he has to try and turn Walt, and thats going to be the conflict of the last 8 episodes. > [@UncleRojelio](#): > > Even if Hank now thinks Walt is Heisenberg, he has no proof at the moment. The next seven episodes will about Hank trying to gather evidence without tipping Walt off. Evidently, eventually, Walt figures the jig is up and skips town. For whatever reason, I’m not interested in watching eight episodes of this. I agree, they are practical predictions, but I have very little interest in watching ASAC: The Hank Schrader Files. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/325 "2012-09-06T13:13:56Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > For whatever reason, I’m not interested in watching eight episodes of this. I agree, they are practical predictions, but I have very little interest in watching ASAC: The Hank Schrader Files. Well if Hank is having to try to get Walt to turn witness and lead him to bigger partners acting completely unofficially without any DEA resources and without taking Walt into custody thats another matter and that’s what I meant. ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/326 "2012-09-06T13:21:19Z")
> [@PeacePlease](#): > > P.S. How long do we actually have to wait for the final 8 episodes? 'Cause seriously, I could be dead by then and then I’d be pissed I didn’t know how this all turned out!!! It’s supposed to start up about the same time next year as it did this year (mid July). ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/327 "2012-09-06T14:10:04Z")
> [@UncleRojelio](#): > > The next seven episodes will about Hank trying to gather evidence without tipping Walt off. This is actually one of the reasons I think Hank has to know the full truth now: with only eight episodes left I don’t think they’re going to put a lot of time into having him investigate Walt. He does have to gather some actual proof, but I don’t think the last half-season of the series is going to be heavily devoted to Hank pursuing Walt the way he did Gus. We’ve already seen that and they have to wrap up the whole thing thematically. ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/328 "2012-09-06T17:43:34Z")
interesting new interview with Vince Gilligan [http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/breaking-bad-creator-vince-gilligan-on-poetry-books-time-jumps-and-the-end-for-walter-white](http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/breaking-bad-creator-vince-gilligan-on-poetry-books-time-jumps-and-the-end-for-walter-white) ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/329 "2012-09-06T18:19:21Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Hate to wait 10 more months. Why are they doing this? Why couldn’t they just present the regular 16-episode season all at once like normal? ☹ My WAG is because of the popularity of _The Walking Dead_, which is also on AMC, shares the same time slot and has been on hiatus for awhile now (and will be back next month). ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/330 "2012-09-06T23:31:47Z")
> [@Washoe](#): > > But where is the methylamine going to come from? It’s virtually certain that the 1000 gallons is gone. Blue Sky is No Mas. Declans gang has an existing source of methylamine. Thats established in the confrontation when Walt point out they changed to a p2p cook to copy him. They were only getting 70 percent purity, but with Todd’s knowledge I’m sure they can do better. Probably not 99.1 percent but better anyway. ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@MarkD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/331 "2012-09-06T23:43:30Z")
> [@Washoe](#): > > Walt told Declan in the desert that the methylamine was worth $300 million in his hands. Based on the percentages that Walt has been able to keep after each cook, that’s probably about right. Lydia gets 30%, Declan’s crew gets another 35%, Jesse got his $5 million, Todd and his crew have to be paid, probably a dozen people at the Czech end are on the payroll, etc. Something that has bothered me: How does Walt pay these percentages. 35% of what? 30% of what? How does he know what they are selling it for? Could Lydia be selling it for more overseas than what it is selling for locally? It would make more sense to me that Walt would be a manufacturer/wholesaler and have a price per unit that he sells to these big distributors for. It would be much simpler for him. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/332 "2012-09-06T23:50:11Z")
> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#): > > interesting new interview with Vince Gilligan [http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/breaking-bad-creator-vince-gilligan-on-poetry-books-time-jumps-and-the-end-for-walter-white](http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/breaking-bad-creator-vince-gilligan-on-poetry-books-time-jumps-and-the-end-for-walter-white) That’s a really good interview; it touches on almost all the points I’ve seen people asking about (and been led to wonder about myself). ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/333 "2012-09-07T19:35:03Z")
I don’t have the links handy, but I found two other Gilligan interviews of interest. Most repeat the same stuff, but at Salon he notes that it was actor Aaron Paul who strongly put forth that Jesse couldn’t go back to meth making after the death of dirt bike boy. Gilligan is described as a unique mixture of auteur & collaborator. A combo that works well, I’d say. Another of his quotes says the writers are going to abandon their previous “timid” storytelling. ?!! ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/334 "2012-09-07T20:20:05Z")
> [@Critical1](#): > > re: the money, that pile is roughly 12x12 stacked around 37 bundles tall mixed 20’s, 50’s, and 100’s > (yes I paused it and counted to get that estimate) > > that’s 5,328 bundles or 532,800 bills > 20’s = 10,656,000 > 50’s = 26,640,000 > 100’s = 53,280,000 > so the answer is somewhere in between those 3 as an educated guestimate. my ball park would be around 30 mil. I found this online that estimates almost 27 Million. [http://hypervocal.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/bb-money.jpeg](http://hypervocal.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/bb-money.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/335 "2012-09-07T20:37:18Z")
[‘Breaking Bad’ Creator Thinking Maybe Next Season Should Take Dark Turn](‘Breaking Bad’ Creator Thinking Maybe Next Season Should Take Dark Turn) God I love The Onion. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/336 "2012-09-07T20:37:58Z")
> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#): > > Another of his quotes says the writers are going to abandon their previous “timid” storytelling. ?!! \*This is where it all comes to an end. There will be resolution in these final eight. We will know where everybody stands. Gosh, what can I say about it? I’m being very maddeningly vague and general. We are going to swing for the fences in these final eight episodes. It’s terrifying, and yet it’s liberating for me and for the writers to know that these are the final eight hours that we’ll ever have for this series. There’s been talk of a movie and whatnot, but I can tell you that none of that is even remotely on my radar right now. As far as I’m concerned, the end of this story is contained within these final eight episodes. **We now have freedom, carte blanche I suppose, to dispense with the timid, pusillanimous storytelling we’ve been doing so far.** [http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/04/vince-gilligan-on-breaking-bad-and-the-plumbing-of-it-all/](http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/04/vince-gilligan-on-breaking-bad-and-the-plumbing-of-it-all/) \* ---
**Author:** ![sco3tt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@sco3tt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sco3tt)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/337 "2012-09-07T22:18:13Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > [‘Breaking Bad’ Creator Thinking Maybe Next Season Should Take Dark Turn](‘Breaking Bad’ Creator Thinking Maybe Next Season Should Take Dark Turn) > > God I love The Onion. [Fixed link](http://www.theonion.com/articles/breaking-bad-creator-thinking-maybe-next-season-sh,29445/). ---
**Author:** ![sco3tt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@sco3tt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sco3tt)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/338 "2012-09-07T22:34:17Z")
> [@standingwave](#): > > [http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/04/vince-gilligan-on-breaking-bad-and-the-plumbing-of-it-all/](http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/04/vince-gilligan-on-breaking-bad-and-the-plumbing-of-it-all/) From that same interview: _uh, gee, I’m getting into territory where I don’t want to give too much away. But basically Walt and Jesse are very much – not necessarily intellectually equals, but speaking in terms of formidability – is that a word? formidableness? – they are very much closer to being equals than they’ve ever been before._ No doubt about it, Chekhov’s M60 from episode 5.01 foretells a showdown with Jesse at the conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/339 "2012-09-08T00:27:34Z")
As if their storytelling has ever been timid! ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506/340 "2012-09-08T01:14:41Z")
> [@sco3tt](#): > > From that same interview: _uh, gee, I’m getting into territory where I don’t want to give too much away. But basically Walt and Jesse are very much – not necessarily intellectually equals, but speaking in terms of formidability – is that a word? formidableness? – they are very much closer to being equals than they’ve ever been before._ > > No doubt about it, Chekhov’s M60 from episode 5.01 foretells a showdown with Jesse at the conclusion. No doubt they’re going to throw down, but a machine gun isn’t for taking out just one guy. Will Jesse have some kind of gang behind him? How will Todd play into it? Declan and the Czechs? Will we get to see Lydia naked? Can’t wait to find out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-5-8-gliding-over-all/633506.md?page=18)