# Breaking Bad Season 5! (Prev. Season Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 6, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444 "2012-07-06T17:54:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/61 "2012-07-13T00:57:46Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > This show is just so unrealistic, I tell ya… Everything mentioned upthread I can buy, but I can’t believe that pizza didn’t fall apart when Walt threw it on the roof. Speaking of, I don’t know if I own a table that would hold that pizza. The thing was about the circumference of a kiddy wading pool. The episode with the ATM stealing tweakers (Spooge and Skank [played by Dale “Patty the Daytime Hooker” Dickey]) was one of my favorites because of the scenes with Jesse and the little boy. It was one of the first times I actually liked Jesse. Anna Gunn’s highwater mark to date was the blonde boobshell ditz accountant performance for the IRS. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/62 "2012-07-13T01:37:14Z")
This Sunday!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![greenslime1951](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9bcb4/32.png) [@greenslime1951](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/greenslime1951)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/63 "2012-07-13T02:33:37Z")
Since we expect Walter to continue to spiral downward until he reaches the depths of evil, my prediction is that he won’t. He’ll redeem himself in some fashion. He’ll also die. Which brings me to a perception I’ve had of his character. I don’t see his actions as wholly or purely evil. His hand has seemed forced on many occasions. He kills people, but as Arnold says in “True Lies,” “Yes, but they were all bad.” His concern for his family remains, and though many of his actions are motivated by wounded pride, he does have a sense of justice and cares about Skyler (though why he shouldn’t cut her throat escapes me), Walt Jr., and yes, even Jesse. I don’t really blame him for who he is and his attitude toward the world. He’s a brilliant man who got fucked over by people he trusted. He’s stuck teaching high school chemistry to a bunch of kids who hate the subject and disdain him. He is married to a woman who has open contempt for him, and grants him sex once a year while staring into space. Exactly one person in the world–his son–loves him. And then, to put the cherry on the whipped cream on the sundae, he is diagnosed with terminal cancer. Under those circumstances, I’d probably break bad, too. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/64 "2012-07-13T17:18:34Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > The episode with the ATM stealing tweakers (Spooge and Skank [played by Dale “Patty the Daytime Hooker” Dickey]) was one of my favorites because of the scenes with Jesse and the little boy. It was one of the first times I actually liked Jesse. I’d love to see that little boy again. He had a distinctive look – I know we’d recognize him. ---
**Author:** ![Surbey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@Surbey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surbey)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/65 "2012-07-13T18:07:08Z")
My Predictions: Walter Jr. will…continue to each breakfast. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/66 "2012-07-13T18:12:18Z")
[Walter Jr.](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6vhijrtNN1qhgs35o1_400.jpg) actually only ate breakfast twice in season 4. FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/67 "2012-07-13T19:04:06Z")
> [@grude](#): > > You’re forgetting that right before this for the first time in his boring middle class life Walt had been shot at, held at gunpoint, and killed a man(he thought it had been two). Now he is no longer a drug chemist, despite the sentence I doubt many people would have a moral problem with synthing drugs, he is also a murderer. Also his plan has gone totally pear shaped, AND he has had the first intrusion of harsh reality on his little crime boss fantasy. > > I could buy someone in that situation, full of adrenaline, not being cool and rational. > > And also it was needed so we could have the situation in the basement testing Walt, in hindsight even in these early episodes the point of the series is Walt’s moral descent. > > Something I had a problem with was Walt retreiving the still living injured guy, STUPID! Should have let him go, the police pick him up so the fuck what? You think he would have been honest about what he was doing? He memorized the license plate of the RV? LOL The fear was that the injured guy - who was a reasonably badass crime boss - would come back and kill Walt and Jesse, and Walt’s whole family - not that he would rat them out to the cops (although as you later find out, he’s a professional snitch, so he could do that too!). It wouldn’t have been difficult for the guy to find them, as he knew Jesse pretty well - his cousin was Jesse’s partner. Once he had Jesse, it wouldn’t take long to torture Walt’s ID out of him. So no, just letting him walk would not be a great idea. As for why not just bury the bodies in the wilderness - I’ve often wondered why real life murderers often don’t do that, but resort to dismembering, tossing in dumpsters, etc. One problem is that digging a deep enough grave to avoid scavengers giving the game away is simply a hell of a lot of work that takes hours, and murderers feel concerned that someone will spot them at it. Obviously just dumping the bodies would not be a great idea, dumped stuff clearly gets found pretty quickly. Look what happened ti the mask they dropped. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/68 "2012-07-13T19:08:15Z")
But if you were looking for plot holes … fulminated mercury cannot be made to look like meth crystals. 😉 [http://www.explosci.com/mercury-fulminate/](http://www.explosci.com/mercury-fulminate/) ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/69 "2012-07-13T19:18:20Z")
Next you’ll be telling us they don’t even _eat_ breakfast in New Mexico. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/70 "2012-07-13T20:05:12Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > [Walter Jr.](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6vhijrtNN1qhgs35o1_400.jpg) actually only ate breakfast twice in season 4. And at least once he had dinner, even advancing the plot by asking “How’s that case with the singing meth cook going, Uncle Hank?”. It was nice seeing him spread his acting wings. ---
**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/71 "2012-07-13T21:03:17Z")
> [@Surbey](#): > > Walter Jr. will…continue to each breakfast. Man, you guys _really_ need to be putting that stuff in spoiler boxes. ---
**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/72 "2012-07-14T00:40:36Z")
Ah ha. There’s now an [interview with Aaron Paul](http://www.avclub.com/articles/aaron-paul-on-breaking-bads-bloodbath-of-a-fifth-s,82372/) on the A.V. Club, for anyone interested. I caution you though that it has some small spoilers of the upcoming premiere episode. (I kind of wish I hadn’t read it until after Sunday.) ---
**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2012, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/73 "2012-07-14T05:38:38Z")
[The amazing Comic-Con trailer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Ok68Y4cSQ). Probably the last trailer before the premiere. A ton of footage from the upcoming season – including some stuff that might be considered a mild spoiler, so view at your own risk. ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/74 "2012-07-14T14:28:10Z")
Interesting that the new AV Club interview with Bryan Crantson lists this year’s episodes as Season 5 and next summer’s episodes as Season 6. Both the article and Cranston himself say that. ---
**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/75 "2012-07-14T17:32:21Z")
> [@interface2x](#): > > Interesting that the new AV Club interview with Bryan Crantson lists this year’s episodes as Season 5 and next summer’s episodes as Season 6. Both the article and Cranston himself say that. I noticed that too. They had been calling the whole shebang Season 5, in spite of the large gap between the two halves. Maybe someone finally figured out that that’s silly. On the other hand, I suppose when shows come out on disc, or become available for on-demand viewing, the timetable of when they originally aired no longer matters. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/76 "2012-07-15T18:27:02Z")
Tonight’s the night. [First episode thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=658636) ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/77 "2012-11-28T16:31:43Z")
So I’m finally getting caught up with Season 5. I just finished episode 6 last night, so two more to go. I haven’t read the rest of this thread for fear of spoilers, but I have a few thoughts and wanted to see if anyone agreed. _ **WARNING: Unboxed spoilers for Season 5 ahead** _ I’ve heard everyone say Season 5 is absolutely riveting (some saying it’s the best season so far). It’s had its exciting moments, for sure, but I wouldn’t call it riveting through-and-through. The train robbery was the highlight of the season for me, and I absolutely love that Mike (my favorite character) is getting more screen time. However, the Walt-Skyler drama is starting to get stale. I’m finding myself soldiering through those scenes just to get to the exciting drugs-and-violence stuff. I understand that Walt is essentially holding Skyler prisoner by her own guilt and criminal behavior, but is it really a stretch to think she could go to her DEA agent brother and cut some kind of deal to get out? The only card she was holding that Walt didn’t know about and could really squeal about if she talked was that Ted’s “accident” was of her doing, and she simply gave that to him in one of their many arguments. Otherwise, she could very convincingly testify that he forced her to engage in all the criminal behavior. I think the show slowed down just a mite after Gus got whacked. Now Walt’s both the protagonist and antagonist, which is a unique plot device, but lacks the thrill of anxiously waiting for the Big Bad to make his next move. Am I alone in anything I said? Will the last two episodes make up for the whole season? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/78 "2012-11-28T16:57:51Z")
> [@](#): > > Will the last two episodes make up for the whole season? I have no qualms in saying that you will be looking very much forward to the conclusion of Season 5 by the end of your last episode. ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/79 "2012-11-28T17:49:58Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > I have no qualms in saying that you will be looking very much forward to the conclusion of Season 5 by the end of your last episode. I’m not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444/80 "2012-11-28T18:11:37Z")
As far as why Skyler is still going along with it rather than trying to cut a deal; she’s protecting her children. She’s shielding junior from the knowledge of what his father is doing, and she’s shielding both junior and the baby from the stigma that would come from their father’s exposure. I don’t recall exactly how, but I’m pretty sure that this has been implied or explicitly stated in past episodes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-bad-season-5-prev-season-spoilers/627444.md?page=5)