# Breaking News: Bonds Indicted on Perjury, Obstruction
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [November 15, 2007, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607 "2007-11-15T22:31:31Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2007, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/1 "2007-11-15T22:31:31Z")
Not much to the story yet. How ugly could this get?
[http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/11/15/bonds.indicted.ap/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/11/15/bonds.indicted.ap/index.html)
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### Author:  [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2007, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/2 "2007-11-15T22:36:08Z")
Let me be the first to say:
HA-ha!
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### Author:  [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2007, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/3 "2007-11-15T22:40:46Z")
Did his old trainer, Greg Anderson, finally break down?
You’ve gotta think they have some good evidence against Bonds, that’s for sure.
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### Author:  [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2007, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/4 "2007-11-15T22:52:56Z")
[More detail.](http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3112487)
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### Author:  [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2007, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/5 "2007-11-15T23:16:46Z")
[QUOTE=silenus]
Let me be the first to say:
HA-ha!
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Well since you took the HA-ha! let me add this:
\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* \<- Asterisks to be placed next to Mr. Bond’s name by Major League Baseball in future printings of the record books. (More available upon request)
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### Author:  [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2007, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/6 "2007-11-16T00:27:54Z")
Good catch, I had just posted this in both active baseball threads.
I would like to third the honorable Mr. \*\*Silenus’ \*\* statement.
HA-ha!
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### Author:  [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2007, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/7 "2007-11-16T00:32:40Z")
Why the hell couldn’t they have nailed him before he set the record?
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### Author:  [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2007, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/8 "2007-11-16T00:36:27Z")
Bonds is innocent until proven guilty.
So let’s have a fair trial, followed by a fair hanging and get baseball back on solid ground.
Selig should order Roger Maris’ record restored immediately.
I’m ecstatic that Bonds’ career is over, and after his conviction no HOF. Baseball is a joke and has betrayed my love for it in my childhood…
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### Author:  [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2007, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/9 "2007-11-16T00:56:34Z")
[QUOTE=Rysto]
Why the hell couldn’t they have nailed him before he set the record?
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Baseball OWES Bonds, Sosa, and McGwire. It’ll be interesting to ee how this all plays out.
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### Author:  [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2007, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/10 "2007-11-16T01:00:53Z")
I saw on the news ticker on MSNBC just now “President Bush Disappointed About Barry Bonds” or something along those lines (this was before I just looked up the story) and that got a big “WTF?” from me. I thought there was another Presidential appointment that had been shot down by the Senate or something.
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### Author:  [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2007, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/11 "2007-11-16T01:02:16Z")
[QUOTE=asterion]
I saw on the news ticker on MSNBC just now “President Bush Disappointed About Barry Bonds” or something along those lines (this was before I just looked up the story) and that got a big “WTF?” from me. I thought there was another Presidential appointment that had been shot down by the Senate or something.
[/QUOTE]
Drug Czar.
What!? :eek:
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### Author:  [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2007, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/12 "2007-11-16T01:04:45Z")
[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever]
Baseball OWES Bonds, Sosa, and McGwire. It’ll be interesting to ee how this all plays out.
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What do they owe Bonds? I can see the Sosa & McGwire part\*. They had there nifty little race when baseball needed to recover from the strike. Nothing Bonds did was he pumped up helped baseball at all.
Jim
- I don’t think baseball actually owes those two cheats anything either, but at least I understand the argument.
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### Author:  [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2007, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/13 "2007-11-16T01:12:41Z")
“Now batting clean-up for the San Quentin Felons…Barry Bonds. Pitcher Sirhan Sirhan checks the sign…shakes off Manson…Manson carves a cross into his forehead and gives the sign again…Sirhan nods…here’s the pitch…Ouch!. Just a bit inside. It hit Barry right in the…well, right where his balls used to be, before all the steroids.”
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### Author:  [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2007, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/14 "2007-11-16T03:15:03Z")
Suck it, Barry.
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### Author:  [@denquixote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/denquixote)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2007, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/15 "2007-11-16T03:51:37Z")
Wow!!! I always was under the impression that I hated Barry Bonds as much as the next guy, but I was clearly wrong.
I do still hate Pete Rose as much as anyone though right?
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2007, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/16 "2007-11-16T04:57:15Z")
I usually feel at least some pity for people on the wrong end of a pile-on, but… meh. I have to say, though - it took the government a lot of time and money to accuse him of doing something almost everybody already believes he did.
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### Author:  [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2007, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/17 "2007-11-16T08:33:26Z")
You know, if I were a suspicious bastard — and I’m a member of the Straight Dope, so that almost goes without saying — I’d question the timing.
1. Bonds’ contract expired — this indictment therefore hurts only Bonds himself.
2. The World Series is over. This indictment doesn’t affect ticket sales for the season, or upstage baseball’s premiere event (like Scott Boras did, cough cough).
3. Bonds has already broken the all-time record, which means the Giants have already milked him for as many extra ticket sales as they were likely to get.
Coincidence?
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### Author:  [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2007, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/18 "2007-11-16T09:03:45Z")
I gather that this Bonds chap is a baseballist of the battering variety who has achieved great feats but in doing so has somehow garnered more than his share of enmity. Could this simply be jealousy created by team rivalry? Or is he really such a receptacle of scum?
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### Author:  [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2007, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/19 "2007-11-16T13:16:13Z")
[QUOTE=Fish]
You know, if I were a suspicious bastard — and I’m a member of the Straight Dope, so that almost goes without saying — I’d question the timing.
1. Bonds’ contract expired — this indictment therefore hurts only Bonds himself.
2. The World Series is over. This indictment doesn’t affect ticket sales for the season, or upstage baseball’s premiere event (like Scott Boras did, cough cough).
3. Bonds has already broken the all-time record, which means the Giants have already milked him for as many extra ticket sales as they were likely to get.
Coincidence?
[/QUOTE]
I disagree, if there was a conspiracy at all, this indictment would have happened before Bonds got the record. Baseball fandom and especially the Commissioner did not want Bonds to break the record.
[QUOTE=don’t ask]
I gather that this Bonds chap is a baseballist of the battering variety who has achieved great feats but in doing so has somehow garnered more than his share of enmity. Could this simply be jealousy created by team rivalry? Or is he really such a receptacle of scum?
[/QUOTE]
He broke the biggest record in baseball. He did it by increasing his size and strength by a huge amount late in his career. He rather blatantly used steroids and possibly other products to cheat. Steroids use is generally considered the most egregious form for cheating. Additionally, he has a really bad relation with the press. Finally he perjured himself.
Jim
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### Author:  [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2007, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-bonds-indicted-on-perjury-obstruction/426607/20 "2007-11-16T14:01:56Z")
[QUOTE=jtgain]
I’m ecstatic that Bonds’ career is over, and after his conviction no HOF. Baseball is a joke and has betrayed my love for it in my childhood..
[/QUOTE]
I loathe Bonds (check my posting record on his threads!). But, nomatter what happens, I’m guessing he still ends up in the Hall of Fame, and I think he should.
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