# Breaking news - huge outage/interruption created by Crowdstrike problem (July 2024)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 19, 2024, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454 "2024-07-19T09:02:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/1 "2024-07-19T09:02:18Z")

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Sys admins all over the world are having (or are about to have) a very bad Friday and a very long weekend.

> **[Microsoft outage updates: Crowdstrike issue still wreaking havoc despite fix](https://mashable.com/article/windows-bsod-crash-crowdstrike-update-worldwide-outage)**
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> A fitting end to the week.

> **[Major Windows BSOD issue hits banks, airlines, and TV broadcasters](https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/19/24201717/windows-bsod-crowdstrike-outage-issue)**
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> The issues have been linked to a CrowdStrike update.

The short (preliminary) version is that it looks like Crowdstrike (whose software is supposed to detect and prevent cyberattacks) pushed out a flawed update which now prevents affected machines from booting.

Local computers can be safe-booted to a command prompt and the bad executables replaced or removed. But given that the problem prevents machines from booting, remotely-managed computers may be hosed for a while.

Sympathy to anyone here who’s caught up in this.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/2 "2024-07-19T09:06:33Z")

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Well, that would explain why four of the store’s computers and several of our cash registers crashed within a few minutes of each other just before I left for the night.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/3 "2024-07-19T09:08:12Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Sympathy to anyone here who’s caught up in this.

My work laptop first started showing signs of this late yesterday. I was up getting some water and tried to get the computer out of the BSOD a few times, during which it identified the issue as CrowdStrike.

We are an office of the US Goverment with some 10,000 employees.

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**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/4 "2024-07-19T09:10:52Z")

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I imagine that insurance companies are bracing themselves for some huge and complicated claims.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/5 "2024-07-19T09:11:49Z")

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Microsoft right now:

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53866993809_549204d4b3_b.jpg "20240719\_120751") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/53866993809/)

(Yeah, I know it’s Crowdstrike, but the meme is too good to waste.)

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**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/6 "2024-07-19T10:05:39Z")

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The crowdstrike promo says ‘Cyber risk that starts with Microsoft ends with CrowdStrike.’ Yet good luck buying some coffee today at the Big Lots store!

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/7 "2024-07-19T10:24:24Z")

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News update.

> **[CrowdStrike outage impacting flights globally. See the latest.](https://mashable.com/article/faa-flight-ground-stop-crowdstrike-microsoft-outage)**
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> Very IRL consequences for the CrowdStrike outage.

Sounds like anyone scheduled to fly today should grit their teeth and prepare for headaches.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/8 "2024-07-19T10:40:02Z")

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> [@bob\_2](#):
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> I imagine that insurance companies are bracing themselves for some huge and complicated claims.

Well… maybe _planning_ to do that - some of those insurance companies might also be affected.

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**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/9 "2024-07-19T10:40:44Z")

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I wonder if that’s why I can’t log in to my TD Bank account.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/10 "2024-07-19T10:42:53Z")

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I wonder if this is why my ISP had a “scheduled outage” that I never saw announced anywhere and on an unusual date. (They’re usually early Sunday morning.) Or if I just somehow missed it.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/11 "2024-07-19T10:57:05Z")

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Why wouldn’t they stagger the roll out of (non-emergency) software updates to batches of users randomly to avoid this sort of mass outage? Or perhaps they already do that?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/12 "2024-07-19T11:19:06Z")

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Because

[![](https://www.honeycomb.io/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/idontalwaystestmycode.jpg) ](https://www.honeycomb.io/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/idontalwaystestmycode.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/13 "2024-07-19T11:21:05Z")

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One little snippet that made me chuckle:

> The United Kingdom’s Sky News network is off air, the BBC said.

> **[Explained: What Is Causing The Dreaded 'Blue Screen Of Death' On Windows?](https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/microsoft-windows-outage-how-to-resolve-dreaded-blue-screen-of-death-6139017/amp/1)**
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> Microsoft Cloud Outage: A major tech issue has affected millions of Windows computer systems worldwide, causing a sudden shutdown or restart. Microsoft Inc. said the error is due to a recent CrowdStrike update.

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**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/14 "2024-07-19T11:31:21Z")

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One aspect that I find interesting:  
It’s been about 16 hours since the problems started, and I haven’t seen any political ranting and raving yet. No conspiracy theories, no accusations of Chinese/Russian/Iranian hackers, or CIA false flag operations etc.

Compare it to the Trump assassination attempt-- the crazies were making accusations almost immediately

But with this crisis, human beings all around the world all seem to be behaving rationally.  
Which is , I think, an observation that seems newsworthy and relevant to this thread.

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(note to mods: yes, I know this is a breaking news thread…But mentioning the lack of a certain type of news reports constitutes part of the breaking news, too, doesn’t it? If not…my apologies, and please hide my post.)

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/15 "2024-07-19T11:41:40Z")

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911 service in our town went down this morning.

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**Author:** ![MW\_Degen\_Gamblr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ec9cab/32.png) [@MW\_Degen\_Gamblr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MW_Degen_Gamblr)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/16 "2024-07-19T12:24:14Z")

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Oh crap, I hope this doesn’t effect slot machines. They aren’t online games, but I think updates might be connected to the internet. I need all the slots to be up and running, Fridays are my biggest days!

Midwest Degenerate Gambler  
-Egad!

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/17 "2024-07-19T13:06:19Z")

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Why does any operating system allow any application enough access that it’s even possible for it to do this?

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/18 "2024-07-19T13:47:21Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> 911 service in our town went down this morning.

911 service went down across the country. Maybe not 100% but a very large portion of it. Along with computer sided dispatch, reports, warrants… just about everything police and first responder related. What used to be handled with map and a radio is all on computer and affected. Hearing about it on cop pages I’m on.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/19 "2024-07-19T14:08:29Z")

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My work laptop is dead in the water this morning. IT so far has requested I come into the IT office in Virginia. I work at the company HQ in Massachusetts…

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**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-huge-outage-interruption-created-by-crowdstrike-problem-july-2024/1004454/20 "2024-07-19T14:11:28Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Why does any operating system allow any application enough access that it’s even possible for it to do this?

It’s a trusted security driver that needs to run at the kernel level to trap bad behaviours.

I am in the midst of getting one of my large Logistics customers back online so they can get trucks moving across the border. Luckily the fix is not hard, but takes 5-10 minutes per server.

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