# Breaking news! Michael Jackson pleads not gulity to all charges! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 16, 2004, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799 "2004-01-16T17:42:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/21 "2004-01-16T22:32:08Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > I know it’s been asked before, but who ARE all these fans?! I think they’re the “Caravan of Love.” There’s something very, very wrong about that, but I can’t quite place it… ---
**Author:** ![french\_frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c77e96/32.png) [@french\_frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/french_frog)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/22 "2004-01-16T23:35:48Z")
I rarely follow MJ news but I happenned to look at CNN today while the MJ show was on. Man. This guy’s face! He has the same weird appearance of people who went head first in their windshield in a bad car accident, and were sewn back the best the doctor could. But the guy did this willingly? Weird. ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/23 "2004-01-16T23:54:48Z")
> [@Jeep's Phoenix](#): > > I think they’re the “Caravan of Love.” > > There’s something very, very wrong about that, but I can’t quite place it… Maybe they’re apprentice NAMBLA members ? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/24 "2004-01-17T00:26:29Z")
> [@Jeff Olsen](#): > > [This is news](http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/16/national/16CND-JACK.html?ex=1074920400&en=ccb867e89900eb24&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE)? The, uh, man has always maintained he didn’t do anything wrong! What did the media expect him to do? It’s still news, even if it was expected to happen. Are you pitting the amount of coverage, the type of coverage or that it was covered at all? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/25 "2004-01-17T01:19:01Z")
> [@The Long Road](#): > > It’s still news, even if it was expected to happen. > > Are you pitting the amount of coverage, the type of coverage or that it was covered at all? The first two but it’s not as bad now. Then again, I’m on the opposite coast. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/26 "2004-01-17T02:06:59Z")
What bothers me is that if this wasn’t happening today, we’d be getting so much more footage from the Mars rover. And I for one would prefer that. If I’m going to see alien creatures, I’d prefer that they be at least potentially harmless. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/27 "2004-01-17T06:30:08Z")
I’m actually finding it amusing, in a trainwreck sort of way. Mainly because I just want to see what crazy, fucked up thing he’ll say next. Michael Jackson is his own worst enemy. Which is sad, because I remember when he was _cool_. Remember _Thriller_? Man, I LOVED Michael when I was six. And then…sadly, he went downhill, hit the bottom, smashed his face up against a few boulders and became the walking nightmare we are now seeing. It’s very disturbing. ---
**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/28 "2004-01-17T10:50:44Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Man, I LOVED Michael when I was six. And if you were a boy, he’d have loved you, too! Well, _somebody_ had to say it… :o ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/29 "2004-01-17T11:50:03Z")
I love this little bit: > [@](#): > > “We want him to see that he has support,” said Kristie Dixon, 20, who drove to California from her home in Charleston, S.C., for the occasion. “If you dig deep enough into what happened you will see that he is innocent.” Why the fuck would you _drive_ 3000 miles to see someone plead in a trial? And what “support”? Do people really think the judge gives a rat’s ass what some dumb bitch from South Carolina thinks about the case? ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/30 "2004-01-17T12:27:04Z")
One of MJ’s crew says the jumping-on-top-of-the-SUV was a “spontaneous” act. What prompted him to say this, I don’t know, but :rolleyes: , in any case. Spontaneous? Yeah, a spontaneous act of attention-whoring! It really makes me **fucking sick** to think that this just seems to be another publicity op for him! And yes, I know that by feeding this Pit thread, I’m not entirely absolving myself from being part of the problem. Still. **sturmhauke** : And what the fuck does she mean, “dig deep enough”? Seems to me that the whole problem is that MJ’s claims of innocent friendship or whatever _don’t stand up to close scrutiny_. It’s because people **did** “dig deep” that there was enough evidence to get the ball rolling on this. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/31 "2004-01-17T14:01:27Z")
Liberace was gay? ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/32 "2004-01-17T14:05:36Z")
You know, it is time for Michael to signal the Mothership to beam him back up and return him to whatever Galaxy he came from. Hey Michael, the experiment with humans has failed, time to go… ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/33 "2004-01-17T14:19:37Z")
wHY WAS THE JUDGE SO PISSED OFF? Whenever I’ve been to court, the judges are ALWAYs late…and not by 20-30 minutes…more like 1-2 hours! Nobody seems to think anything untoward about this…except the poor fools whose lawyers are billing them for all that time sitting around in court! ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/34 "2004-01-17T14:27:50Z")
> [@MeanJoe](#): > > Hey Michael, the experiment with humans has failed, time to go… I’m not an alien! ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/35 "2004-01-17T16:43:32Z")
I’m was sure I made a pit thread about the idiot fans who are so sure he’s innocent, but I can’t find it for some reason. I can see having doubts either way, and although I suspect he’s guilty I’m open to the possibility he’s innocent, but by what logic do these dolts come the conclusion they’re sure he’s innocent? “I like his music so he couldn’t do anything bad?” Yeah, musicians have really proven themselves over the years to ALL be perfectly law-abiding citizens with no personal quirks or odd predilections… ---
**Author:** ![CheekyMonkey613](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e480ec/32.png) [@CheekyMonkey613](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheekyMonkey613)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/36 "2004-01-17T16:59:21Z")
> [@deb2world](#): > > I heard on the live telecast that people came from all over the world for the “event”. They talked about someone who spent over $600 just to get there and they were broke now. I’m not sure if it was CNN or a local station, but I heard that one person came all the way from AUSTRALIA for this “event”. That’s a $3000 ticket right there ~ aside from accomodations, food, and $250 if they parked near the courthouse. ---
**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/37 "2004-01-17T18:41:44Z")
You realize, of course, that if Michael Jackson is convicted, the fallout will be terrible. Chimpanzees and werewolves everywhere will riot in the streets, flinging feces and dancing with zombie passers-by. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/38 "2004-01-17T19:10:58Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > wHY WAS THE JUDGE SO PISSED OFF? Whenever I’ve been to court, the judges are ALWAYs late…and not by 20-30 minutes…more like 1-2 hours! Nobody seems to think anything untoward about this…except the poor fools whose lawyers are billing them for all that time sitting around in court! I’ve not seen judges be late routinely, and yes, I’ve seen them very angry when defendants are late. If the defendant is late, this costs the court their (taxpayer supported) time, plus all the other folks. Judges time is a valuable resource and should not be wasted by some attention whoring person. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/39 "2004-01-17T19:25:20Z")
> [@Fish](#): > > You realize, of course, that if Michael Jackson is convicted, the fallout will be terrible. Chimpanzees and werewolves everywhere will riot in the streets, flinging feces and dancing with zombie passers-by. Oh shit, I didn’t even think of that. Funny, I was reading a quote about Rick James who said it was because Micahel was black and they always go after the black man. Um, didn’t Rick James also rape and molest some woman? Not exactly someone I’d want defending me. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2004, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799/40 "2004-01-17T19:38:06Z")
Did anyone else see the OJ White Bronco-style SUV chase via helicopter after the court appearance was over? They were literally following the guy down the fucking highway and the reporter is saying “Now Jim, Where do you suppose he’s going?” BTW on Jimmy Kimmel last night they showed a clip of a Michael Jackson support rally and one guy was cheering the crowd on saying: Guy: Michael Jackson is not only the biggest pop star in America; he’s the biggest pop star in the whole WORLD! Crowd: Yeah! Guy: His music has inspired people around the globe! Crowd: Yeah! Guy: And if he has to make sweet sweet love to little boys for his inspiration then so what! Crowd [eyes wide]: Huh? Guy: I bet the kid deserved it! Crowd: Ummm…he’s not with us. Guy: I bet the kid deserved it! I bet the kid deserved it! I bet the… Fucking hilarious. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-michael-jackson-pleads-not-gulity-to-all-charges/224799.md?page=3)