# Breaking news: Minnesota assassin targeting Democrats 2025-06-14

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**Created:** [June 14, 2025, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626 "2025-06-14T14:07:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/81 "2025-06-16T03:26:21Z")

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Wikipedia article says that there is no indication that his “Praetorian” company ever had any clients, and that he has no background in military, LEO, or security.

> **[2025 shootings of Minnesota legislators | Suspect and motive](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators#Suspect_and_motive)**
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> Vance Luther Boelter (born July 23, 1967) was identified as the suspect by the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. Boelter, 57 years old at the time of the crime, is a businessman and evangelist who had worked in the food service and security industries. Police said that Boelter was considered armed and dangerous. They described him being around 6-foot-1 and weighing 220 pounds, having brown hair and brown eyes. Images of Boelter were released by police on June 15, showing him Boelter wor...

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/82 "2025-06-16T03:30:18Z")

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I’ll be curious to know if his wife did or didn’t have his passport with her when she was stopped.

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/83 "2025-06-16T03:30:37Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> I want this man to be put on trial so that his political motivations (and orientation) can be exposed to the world.

You might not get that. The best you might get is what investigators can find on him. We don’t know what’s in his ‘manifesto’ yet & If he didn’t post a lot online you might not get your answers.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/84 "2025-06-16T03:34:23Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> > [@Hampshire](#):
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> > Looks like they captured him alive.
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> Seeing the same (CNN). Good. I want this man to be put on trial so that his political motivations (and orientation) can be exposed to the world.

Will Boelter turn out to be the far right’s version of Luigi Mangione?

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/85 "2025-06-16T03:51:38Z")

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current briefing happening now:

> **[Governor Walz to Provide Public Safety Update](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=RxT-OeC-EWM%2F)**
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> Governor Tim Walz and law enforcement officials will hold a public safety briefing to provide updates on the targeted shootings of state legislators Melissa ...

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/86 "2025-06-16T04:14:58Z")

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Moderating:

> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> > [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> > > [@Hampshire](#):
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> > > Looks like they captured him alive.
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> > Seeing the same (CNN). Good. I want this man to be put on trial so that his political motivations (and orientation) can be exposed to the world.
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> Will Boelter turn out to be the far right’s version of Luigi Mangione?

Please take the political discussion to the p&e thread. This is the breaking news thread.

> [@Democratic lawmakers killed by police impersonators](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democratic-lawmakers-killed-by-police-impersonators/1019645):
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> [https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/minnesota-state-lawmakers-shot-search-underway-suspect-local-media-reports-say-2025-06-14/](https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/minnesota-state-lawmakers-shot-search-underway-suspect-local-media-reports-say-2025-06-14/) This is so horrible and so sad.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/87 "2025-06-16T13:45:02Z")

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They’ll _never_ think to look for me here.

Evidently he was outstanding in his field.

Guy is a real loser at losing.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/88 "2025-06-16T13:50:02Z")

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Glad he’s caught and won’t hurt anyone else.

He had a list of names.

> **[Amid their grief, lawmakers also feared for safety upon learning of shooter’s...](https://www.startribune.com/investigators-boelter-manifesto-mainly-comprised-of-names-pieced-together-from-multiple-searches/601373544)**
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> Sen. Amy Klobuchar was among the names on a list, which includes members of the DFL congressional delegation and abortion providers.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/89 "2025-06-16T15:40:29Z")

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Digging up his contraband?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/90 "2025-06-16T15:43:38Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Guy is a real loser at losing.

He failed to have a back-up plan. ‘What if I’m discovered in the act?’ He must have thought that police would be occupied at the previous scene, and he could just hopscotch down his list.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/91 "2025-06-16T15:51:09Z")

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Looking at the [archived link](https://web.archive.org/web/20250615015134/https://www.pguards.net/membership-pricing) in **Anne** ’s second posting the part that stood out to me was,

> **Social unrest assurance:** this is not insurance, but assurance-when you become a member at any level-your membership is date and time stamped. During a time where everyone else may be looking for more security, our members are “assured” their security needs come first. Based on market pricing.

Translation: When the greasers, faggots, and child-murderers run amok and you’re scared for your life we’ll let you bid for our protection for only $659 to $2,400 a month but join now – they’re time-stamped.

I wonder how many gun-toting employees he had standing by to actually show up if there ever was a crisis.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/92 "2025-06-16T16:27:08Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I wonder how many gun-toting employees he had standing by to actually show up if there ever was a crisis.

Zero, according to the articles that cover his company. But then, he also had zero clients.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/93 "2025-06-16T16:42:18Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> They’ll _never_ think to look for me here.
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> Evidently he was outstanding in his field.

👍 😆

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/94 "2025-06-16T16:46:10Z")

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Kudos to the BCA (Bureau of Criminal Apprehension) and all of the other LEOs who ran this fucker to ground. I hope the guy who had initial contact with him gets a medal for his fast thinking. BCA is like a state version of the FBI, who, if nothing else, are very good at criminal pursuit.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/95 "2025-06-16T16:46:39Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Evidently he was outstanding in his field.

I hear he was going to start a punk rock band…

He was tired of haulin’ oats.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/96 "2025-06-16T17:15:22Z")

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These corny jokes will eventually have the Mods give us a good threshing.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/97 "2025-06-16T17:31:51Z")

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That is how scarecrows win awards.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/98 "2025-06-16T17:53:29Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> Zero, according to the articles that cover his company. But then, he also had zero clients.

I wonder if his security company was pretty much nominal just so he’d be licensed to have access to stuff that’s otherwise regulated. Not just weapons but lockpicking tools, surveillance equipment, etc.

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/99 "2025-06-16T18:02:17Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Evidently he was outstanding in his field.

If only he was out _lying_ in his field

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-minnesota-assassin-targeting-democrats-2025-06-14/1019626/100 "2025-06-16T18:27:19Z")

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The Guardian says he also went to the homes of two other lawmakers:

> **[Suspect in Minnesota lawmaker killing visited other legislators’ homes, say...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/16/minnesota-lawmaker-killings-suspect-legislator-homes)**
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> Vance Luther Boelter, who shot two state lawmakers, also showed up at two other legislators’ homes the same night

> A man accused of dressing up as a police officer and [shooting two Minnesota state lawmakers](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/14/democratic-lawmakers-minnesota-shot) in their homes – killing one and her husband – also showed up at the houses of two other legislators the same night intending to assassinate them too, authorities revealed on Monday.  
> The acting US attorney for the district of [Minnesota](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/minnesota), Joe Thompson, told reporters that as well as the early-hours attacks on the Hortman and Hoffman residences, Boelter was spotted at the homes of two other unnamed lawmakers, one a state representative, the other a state senator, in a “planned campaign of stalking and violence”.

> At one of the properties, nobody was home, he said. At the other, he was confronted by a police officer who was called to make a wellness check, and fled the scene.

So it sounds like the cops were really on this - going to multiple other lawmakers’ homes to make sure they were OK.

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