# Breaking News: reported mass shooting in Dayton OH

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**Created:** [August 4, 2019, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161 "2019-08-04T06:35:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/1 "2019-08-04T06:35:09Z")

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Initial reports of seven dead.

[https://www.whio.com/news/crime--law/police-responding-active-shooting-oregon-district/dHOvgFCs726CylnDLdZQxM/amp.html?\_\_twitter\_impression=true](https://www.whio.com/news/crime--law/police-responding-active-shooting-oregon-district/dHOvgFCs726CylnDLdZQxM/amp.html?__twitter_impression=true)

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/2 "2019-08-04T06:47:34Z")

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Not much news from the scene yet. I’m seeing reports of 7 dead. The site is a bar, apparently. Some reports say a white male is in custody.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/3 "2019-08-04T06:55:42Z")

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JFC today will be remebered as nuts in american history …

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/4 "2019-08-04T07:18:35Z")

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Oh FFS. Seriously? I opened this thread thinking it was an update on a thread that was posted earlier today, only to find yet another fucker has gone ballistic with a gun.

Yeah, thoughts and fucking prayers USA. That’s all that’s left for you now.

:(:(☹

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/5 "2019-08-04T07:25:57Z")

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It’s almost as if these mass killers WANT gun control.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/6 "2019-08-04T07:27:53Z")

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WHIO news reports one fatality confirmed and identified by the coroner — [Coroner IDs Dayton shooting victim; Police ask for public’s help – WHIO TV 7 and WHIO Radio](https://www.whio.com/news/local/male-reportedly-shot-times-dayton-home/vwOP4bh1uUnefm395uNzoK/).

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/7 "2019-08-04T08:33:31Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> It’s almost as if these mass killers WANT gun control.

What most of them want is to be heroes going out in a blaze of glory.

So when gun control _is_ seriously discussed, let alone implemented, because “Y’all can’t behave” that’s exactly what they’ll do, in order to prove that they _can_ behave… by killing dozens of innocent people, using precisely the kinds of weapons the pro-gun-control crowd wants to ban most, because killing more people will convince _everyone_ that guns are safe and most definitely don’t need to be controlled in any fashion.

It makes perfect sense if you yell about killing minorities.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/8 "2019-08-04T08:35:32Z")

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Correct me if I’m wrong - is this the third mass shooting in 24 hours?

Please tell me that’s a new record, because if it’s not I just give up.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/9 "2019-08-04T08:38:54Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Correct me if I’m wrong - is this the third mass shooting in 24 hours?
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> Please tell me that’s a new record, because if it’s not I just give up.

Yes, God bless America, home of the brave and the land of the FREE.

:mad:

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/10 "2019-08-04T09:15:01Z")

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Been there a number of times. And my daughter lives in Dayton Towers Apartments, which is a couple blocks east of there.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/11 "2019-08-04T10:39:01Z")

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Now it’s at least ten dead, including the gun man: Fox News, Dayton, Ohio, gunfire results in 10 deaths, including gunman; at least 16 wounded: police — [Dayton, Ohio, shooting that left 9 dead, 27 hurt halted 'in under a minute' by cops who shot suspect: mayor | Fox News](https://www.foxnews.com/us/at-least-10-may-be-dead-in-dayton-ohio-gunfire-reports)

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/12 "2019-08-04T12:09:14Z")

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> [@nightshadea](#):
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> JFC today will be remebered as nuts in american history …

Or maybe it won’t; maybe it’ll be just another day in America, unfortunately. It seems almost “normal” now, like this is what we’ve come to expect, and accept.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/13 "2019-08-04T12:12:41Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> What most of them want is to be heroes going out in a blaze of glory.
> 
> So when gun control _is_ seriously discussed, let alone implemented, because “Y’all can’t behave” that’s exactly what they’ll do, in order to prove that they _can_ behave… by killing dozens of innocent people, using precisely the kinds of weapons the pro-gun-control crowd wants to ban most, because killing more people will convince _everyone_ that guns are safe and most definitely don’t need to be controlled in any fashion.
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> It makes perfect sense if you yell about killing minorities.

I don’t see it this way at all; I think most of these people need a psychiatrist and are probably socially isolated. They’re not all the same either: the kid who shot up Wal-Mart in El Paso was homicidal but not particularly suicidal; the killer in Dayton, OTOH, seems to be suicidal. Mass shootings are often a suicidal act, as much as an act of mass homicide.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/14 "2019-08-04T12:16:12Z")

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All of them law-abiding citizens, you know. Right up until the moment they weren’t.

“Shall not be infringed”, sheeple!

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**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/15 "2019-08-04T12:23:27Z")

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Both shootings yesterday occurred in Death Penalty states. Looks like it’s not a deterrent after all.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/16 "2019-08-04T12:24:07Z")

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[El Paso Walmart rampage marks 250th mass shooting in 215 days](https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAFiVAh?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare)

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> …And the rampage in El Paso, which left 20 dead and 26 injured, notched an even darker statistic: It occurred on the 215th day of the year, meaning there have been more mass shootings than days so far this year. …

That was a couple of days ago. Make that 251 in 215 days… ☹

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/17 "2019-08-04T12:39:09Z")

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But according to El Paso mayor, we cant talk politics immediately after a shooting, because, you see, memorials come first.

Excep in America theres another mass shooting before the memorials from the last one have even started.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/18 "2019-08-04T12:44:43Z")

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Copied from other thread…

I drove up to Dayton for family obligations and to see old friends from Columbus. If not for extreme laziness on all our parts, we would have been at ned peppers last night. We talked extensively about going down there…woke up this morning to frantic texts from my mom.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/19 "2019-08-04T12:54:55Z")

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I don’t get it. It seems like each shooting should shift the thinking of some percentage of those on the “pro-gun” side. I know that personally, I always considered guns to be a tool that could be used safely until one of the school shootings made me realize I was insane for thinking that.

Gun grabbers grab away. Take mine, ideally reimbursing me with a gift card or something. I don’t want to have to put on a flak jacket every time I run to the store.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/20 "2019-08-04T13:15:33Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Correct me if I’m wrong - is this the third mass shooting in 24 hours?
> 
> Please tell me that’s a new record, because if it’s not I just give up.

The second in 24 hours. Third in a week.

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