# Breaking News: reported mass shooting in Dayton OH

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 4, 2019, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161 "2019-08-04T06:35:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/41 "2019-08-04T17:53:08Z")

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I was in the area at the county fair last night. We had talked about going out for drinks but decided not to. So glad we came home instead!

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/42 "2019-08-04T17:56:03Z")

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> [@Antinor01](#):
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> I was in the area at the county fair last night. We had talked about going out for drinks but decided not to. So glad we came home instead!

Holy crap. My friend that I went to see was visiting from Colorado. He was at his sisters house and I’m so thankful they went home and stayed there. He sat up all night because they could hear the shots from her house.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/43 "2019-08-04T17:56:58Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> This just days after El Paso, and just days after the Gilroy Garlic festival. Right-wing terrorism is the problem in our faces that no one in charge wants to actually talk about. This is Germany in the 1920s and 1930s. We’re all fucked.

The same day as El Paso.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/44 "2019-08-04T17:58:23Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> The same day as El Paso.

Of course. Even better.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/45 "2019-08-04T18:18:37Z")

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> [@Antinor01](#):
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> I was in the area at the county fair last night. We had talked about going out for drinks but decided not to. So glad we came home instead!

Glad you decided to not go out, too!

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/46 "2019-08-04T18:24:03Z")

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Apparently the shooter’s sister and her boyfriend were found shot to death in a car there.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/47 "2019-08-04T18:35:36Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Apparently the shooter’s sister and her boyfriend were found shot to death in a car there.

[Here](https://www.foxnews.com/us/dayton-ohio-shooting-suspect-identified-sister-among-9-killed-officials-say) is a link

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/48 "2019-08-04T18:57:59Z")

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I hate that every story quotes someone calling this a “tragedy.” It’s not a tragedy. There’s nothing tragic about it. This thing is part of a trend with a known set of causes. It doesn’t come from some source of inevitable misfortune. It’s a fucking crime.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/49 "2019-08-04T19:08:41Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> I hate that every story quotes someone calling this a “tragedy.” It’s not a tragedy. There’s nothing tragic about it. This thing is part of a trend with a known set of causes. It doesn’t come from some source of inevitable misfortune. It’s a fucking crime.

I don’t really understand the complaint. Crime can have tragic consequences.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/50 "2019-08-04T19:44:43Z")

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One of the victims seems to have an Asian Indian name so that could be the boyfriend of the sister in an interracial relationship.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/51 "2019-08-04T20:21:16Z")

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Shooter had double drum mags with a capacity of 100 rounds. Good thing he was taken out quickly

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/52 "2019-08-04T21:18:32Z")

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6 officers responded within 30 seconds. 1 with a shotgun and one with a long gun. Video shows at least one officer reloading. They say he was trying to get into a bar but the video shows him running from what would have been a hail of bullets.

Shooter came to bar district in same car with sister and other person. Both were shot and sister died. Gun had multiple modification includings 2 drum magazines taped together. Not sure how that works but it shows planning and premeditation.

Mayor doing a great job keeping to the facts and asking media to do the same.

The picture of his sister looks like it was taken from the library of the college I went to. Very distinctive wall behind her.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/53 "2019-08-05T22:47:11Z")

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[Heavy.com](http://Heavy.com) reports:

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> [Connor Betts, the Dayton, Ohio mass shooter, was a self-described “leftist,” who wrote that he would happily vote for Democrat Elizabeth Warren, praised Satan, was upset about the 2016 presidential election results, and added, “I want socialism, and i’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round to understanding.” …](https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts-twitter-politics-social-media/)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/54 "2019-08-05T23:11:12Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> [Heavy.com](http://Heavy.com) reports:

You must be relieved that you don’t have to defend him.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/55 "2019-08-05T23:27:29Z")

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Trump has [offered thoughts and prayers](https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1158387839148679168) to those that lost their lives in Dayton:

> [@Donald Trump](#):
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> “May God bless the memories of those that perished in Toledo.”

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/56 "2019-08-05T23:32:32Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> Trump has [offered thoughts and prayers](https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1158387839148679168) to those that lost their lives in Dayton:

Joe Biden yesterday:

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> Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden expressed his sympathy for the victims of the weekend’s mass shootings in Houston and Michigan — bungling the locations of the tragedies in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio. …

source: [Biden completely flubs where mass shootings occurred](https://nypost.com/2019/08/05/biden-completely-flubs-where-mass-shootings-occurred/)

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/57 "2019-08-05T23:40:10Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> [Heavy.com](http://Heavy.com) reports:

According to cite, he sure did love him some guns.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/58 "2019-08-05T23:41:26Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Joe Biden yesterday:
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> source: [Biden completely flubs where mass shootings occurred](https://nypost.com/2019/08/05/biden-completely-flubs-where-mass-shootings-occurred/)

[So did Trump.](https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2019/08/05/president-trump-identifies-wrong-ohio-city-of-mass-shooting/)

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> During the address, the President identified the wrong Ohio city, saying: “May God bless the memory of those who perished in Toledo.”

Unlike Trump, Biden did [correct himself.](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/confusion-biden-offers-sympathy-for-the-tragic-events-in-houston-today-and-also-in-michigan)

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> Biden, 76, mistakenly referred to the shootings as “the tragic events in Houston today and also in Michigan the day before," but later corrected himself, according to a pool report.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/59 "2019-08-05T23:46:26Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> According to cite, he sure did love him some guns.

I think he was being sarcastic in that post. He also wrote “This is America: Guns on every corner, guns in every house, no freedom but that to kill” and

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> On Feb. 14, 2018, he tweeted this at Sen. Rob Portman: “@robportman hey rob. How much did they pay you to look the other way? 17 kids are dead. If not now, when?” That was the date of the mass shooting at a school in Parkland, Florida.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-reported-mass-shooting-in-dayton-oh/838161/60 "2019-08-05T23:51:56Z")

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Not much new information. Shooter had up to 250 rounds available. police stopped him at 41 rounds. Person who came with sister and shooter interviewed but no word on it yet. Still not sure if shooter returned home to get guns or they were in trunk the whole time.

His high school “hit list” included a list of girls he wanted to rape.

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