# Breaking News - Several injured and 1 dead in Midland Texas **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 31, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533 "2019-08-31T22:05:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/1 "2019-08-31T22:05:28Z")
Per [current news reporting](https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/31/us/odessa-texas-active-shooter/index.html), there appear to be 2 shooters driving around Midland and Odessa firing at people from their vehicles. At least one police officer has been shot. The situation sounds chaotic. I will also note that there was a [shooting at a high school football game in Mobile](https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/31/us/mobile-ladd-peebles-stadium-shooting/index.html), Alabama yesterday. A 17-year-old shot several people and then turned himself in. At least 10 injured, all teens. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/2 "2019-08-31T22:07:12Z")
Wow. Mr.Wrekker was just in Odessa delivering hay. What a mess. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/3 "2019-08-31T22:22:13Z")
There are now 30 reported victims. It still appears that there are 2 shooters in different vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/4 "2019-08-31T22:44:47Z")
One shooter reported killed. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/5 "2019-08-31T23:09:03Z")
5 dead now. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/6 "2019-09-01T00:05:20Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > There are now 30 reported victims. It still appears that there are 2 shooters in different vehicles. I’ll believe that there were 2 shooters when the police have two suspects/corpses in custody. Multiple shooters is reported nearly every mass shooting and it’s almost never the case. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/7 "2019-09-01T00:06:19Z")
I heard at first that someone had hijacked a mail truck and was firing from there, but now I’m not hearing so much about it. (So, next thing we’ll hear are the ammosexuals advocating that mail carriers be armed.) This has to stop. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/8 "2019-09-01T00:14:29Z")
From the [New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/31/us/odessa-shootings.html?emc=rss&partner=rss) story: > [@](#): > > …Junior Bejarano, 20, a worker at the Twin Peaks restaurant in Odessa, had just finished cleaning a table when he heard a gunshot outside at about 4:30 p.m. “It was chaos in a matter of seconds,” he said. “People were screaming, flipping chairs, dropping plates.” > > A few minutes later, he and other workers walked outside and saw several cars with bullet holes at a nearby intersection, in the turning lane of E. 42nd Street near Parkway Boulevard. He heard a woman screaming and ran to her car with his co-workers. > > Inside, he said he saw a baby girl in a car seat whose face, shirt and lap were covered in blood. One of his co-workers, who is also a paramedic, checked on the child until on-duty paramedics arrived and said that she appeared to have been shot in the shoulder. > > “She was conscious, but she was just covered in blood,” Mr. Bejarano said. “It was horrible to see something like that.” > … ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/9 "2019-09-01T00:41:11Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > From the [New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/31/us/odessa-shootings.html?emc=rss&partner=rss) story: > ☹ Just looked at it, and there seems to have been only one shooter. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/10 "2019-09-01T15:22:31Z")
[Death toll is up to 7 now.](https://apnews.com/e765453e0fc34cbbb75311763d4b3709) ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/11 "2019-09-01T22:48:09Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > From the [New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/31/us/odessa-shootings.html?emc=rss&partner=rss) story: > ☹ If this is the 17-month-old who was shot in her car seat, the latest I heard was that her vital signs are stable, but her lower jaw was basically shot off and she now has no baby teeth. This is an injury that will have lifelong consequences, however long her life ends up being. ☹ The mail carrier who was shot and killed for her truck was an identical twin, and working with her sister at the time. The tragedy never ends. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/12 "2019-09-02T01:02:39Z")
I hate to admit this, but this shit happens so often I don’t react anymore. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/13 "2019-09-02T02:19:17Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > I hate to admit this, but this shit happens so often I don’t react anymore. > > Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Yep, get used to it. Roadside IEDs, random shootings, violence, carnage…etc. It’s been going on in all those third world countries and now those chickens will be coming home to roost. Just MHO. Not wishing for it, just resigned to the fact that this is the way of things now. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/14 "2019-09-02T02:24:02Z")
To clarify, I am deeply disturbed by the way things are going, both worldwide and here in the U.S. It’s just that I fear we are in for cataclysmic changes. Ever the pessimist, me. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/15 "2019-09-02T05:59:40Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > … Roadside IEDs, random shootings, violence, carnage…etc. It’s been going on in all those third world countries and now those chickens will be coming home to roost… Interesting parallel. We look at roadside IEDs as barbaric and as a tool of anarchy and lawlessness, with the appropriate amount of disgust. And we should, considering they kill and maim without prejudice, both the guilty and innocent alike. Yet, in this country, we do all we can to protect guns using little more than 18th century logic. But we somehow consider the latter to be superior to the former? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/16 "2019-09-02T06:10:12Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > … But we somehow consider the latter to be superior to the former? IEDs kill indiscriminately, without thought. Shooters kill indiscriminately, in an orderly and thought-out fashion, so they are semantically preferable, because, uh … let me get back to you on that. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/17 "2019-09-02T06:19:16Z")
I’m getting really sick of hearing this same story. Where the eff are all these good guys with c.c. guns the NRA says will help save lives? Texas is full of guns. I’ll guess they are hiding in a corner shaking in their boots. They’re watching out for their own ass. They’re useless. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/18 "2019-09-02T07:27:48Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I’m getting really sick of hearing this same story. Where the eff are all these good guys with c.c. guns the NRA says will help save lives? Texas is full of guns. I’ll guess they are hiding in a corner shaking in their boots. They’re watching out for their own ass. They’re useless. Remember the Umpqua Community College shooter in southern Oregon? As he was shooting the place up, there was a classroom full of guys with guns – who decided to crouch down in the classroom, because when the police showed up, who would know at whom to shoot? ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/19 "2019-09-02T12:15:14Z")
**Moderator Note** > [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > Interesting parallel. We look at roadside IEDs as barbaric and as a tool of anarchy and lawlessness, with the appropriate amount of disgust. And we should, considering they kill and maim without prejudice, both the guilty and innocent alike. Yet, in this country, we do all we can to protect guns using little more than 18th century logic. But we somehow consider the latter to be superior to the former? > [@eschereal](#): > > IEDs kill indiscriminately, without thought. Shooters kill indiscriminately, in an orderly and thought-out fashion, so they are semantically preferable, because, uh … let me get back to you on that. > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I’m getting really sick of hearing this same story. Where the eff are all these good guys with c.c. guns the NRA says will help save lives? Texas is full of guns. I’ll guess they are hiding in a corner shaking in their boots. They’re watching out for their own ass. They’re useless. > [@eschereal](#): > > Remember the Umpqua Community College shooter in southern Oregon? As he was shooting the place up, there was a classroom full of guys with guns – who decided to crouch down in the classroom, because when the police showed up, who would know at whom to shoot? This is a breaking news thread, not a gun control thread. If you want to discuss gun control, feel free, just not in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533/20 "2019-09-02T13:21:25Z")
This in no way is justification for the shooting but this started with the police pulling him over because he failed to signal a turn. There has to be more to it than that. Was he on their radar for threatening a neighbor? Did they pull his license and discover past issues and decide to shake him down? They picked a bad day to pull over a wack-job who just got fired. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-several-injured-and-1-dead-in-midland-texas/839533.md?page=2)