# Breaking news - Shooting at Synagogue in Pittsburgh **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 27, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591 "2018-10-27T15:07:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/21 "2018-10-27T17:05:03Z")
It looks like Hoft is actually correct for once. This guy is so crazy he thinks Trump isn’t a nationalist… ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/22 "2018-10-27T17:11:31Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Here; look thru his social media history](https://web.archive.org/web/20181027160428/https://imgur.com/a/cwB9QkR). The guy is a Nazi. This is some sick stuff. ---
**Author:** ![HelenTroy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helentroy/32/86_2.png) [@HelenTroy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenTroy)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/23 "2018-10-27T17:20:41Z")
FYI - GAB is a place where Nazis who are too Nazi for twitter go when they are banned. If you have an account on GAB, you’re a Nazi and proud of it. As soon as I saw that, the story is an easy one to piece together. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/24 "2018-10-27T17:41:33Z")
It’s such a terrible morning for our country. I’m too shocked to say very much. The US has always been a safe place for the Jewish people. This kind of hate doesn’t define us. We’re better than this. I hope the Pittsburgh area comes together in complete support of this Synagogue. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/25 "2018-10-27T17:47:55Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > This is terrible. No minority group is safe. Probably a white nationalist. I wonder how Trump spins it. Will he double down on the nationalism? How long before they call this a false flag operation with crisis actors and how long before Trump starts complaining that this is distracting the media from covering his great rallies. > News now is that the building is secured. It just makes me so angry that people attack in a place of worship. Of course, since I’m Jewish it hits in an especially visceral way. It just feels like this country is completely broken. > [@psychobunny](#): > > Idiot in charge is saying that they should have had an armed guard present. His other solution is to have the death penalty imposed for shooters and making it harder to delay it. Because martyring shooters works so well. Placing an armed guard in every building in America is his jobs program. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/26 "2018-10-27T18:02:12Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > Idiot in charge is saying that they should have had an armed guard present. This guy shot four policemen. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/27 "2018-10-27T18:03:12Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > This kind of hate doesn’t define us. We’re better than this. That used to be true, but things have changed. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/28 "2018-10-27T18:07:28Z")
Vice President Pence is on the air praying for them now. That and suggesting armed guards everywhere is about all the extent of the White House response we can expect to see. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/29 "2018-10-27T18:14:44Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > He was apparently motivated by the caravan propaganda. Those of you spreading that propaganda ought to consider that. This is a breaking news thread about a tragedy. I want it to remain apolitical. If you can’t keep it so bad things will happen. I hope that’s clear. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/30 "2018-10-27T18:17:05Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > It’s such a terrible morning for our country. I’m too shocked to say very much. The US has always been a safe place for the Jewish people. Yeah, keep on believing fantasies and then you can be surprised when they turn out not to be true: I’m pretty sure Leo Frank would disagree with you. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/31 "2018-10-27T18:42:16Z")
It looks like the bastard might be from my neck of the woods. Jesus Christ. And the current buffoon in the White House isn’t aware that not only are weapons not permitted in synagogues, but it’s also forbidden to be armed on the Sabbath. Dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/32 "2018-10-27T18:46:37Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > It’s such a terrible morning for our country. I’m too shocked to say very much. The US has always been a safe place for the Jewish people. This is a truly wonderful aspirational goal, but [it doesn’t represent our actual history.](https://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/220024/a-brief-history-of-anti-jewish-attacks-in-america) ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/33 "2018-10-27T18:53:08Z")
Been there a few times for cross-ecumenical things and things for friends who were/are members there. Any time any anyone is attacked it hurts but when it strikes this close to home the pain is deeper faster. > [@Guinastasia](#): > > It looks like the bastard might be from my neck of the woods. Jesus Christ. > > And the current buffoon in the White House isn’t aware that not only are weapons not permitted in synagogues, but it’s also forbidden to be armed on the Sabbath. Dumbass. Actually some around here have been having armed police on hand for at least some high holy days. I believe it started after the attack in Carnegie ages ago but I’m not positive about that. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/34 "2018-10-27T19:04:30Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > This is a breaking news thread about a tragedy. I want it to remain apolitical. If you can’t keep it so bad things will happen. > > I hope that’s clear. It isn’t clear to me at all, actually. But I will play it safe by discussing this act of political violence in some other place. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/35 "2018-10-27T19:09:05Z")
Removed for political content ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/36 "2018-10-27T19:26:35Z")
Then let me be clear. MPSIMS is the place for breaking news events. Commentary and opinion belong elsewhere. Either GD or the Pit, depending on your level of vitriol. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/37 "2018-10-27T19:34:16Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Then let me be clear. > > MPSIMS is the place for breaking news events. Commentary and opinion belong elsewhere. Either GD or the Pit, depending on your level of vitriol. So opinions aren’t allowed, or just political opinions? I understand wanting to avoid a hijack and sniping, but I thought opinion was allowed as long as it was civil. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/38 "2018-10-27T19:43:59Z")
> [@No political/religious jabs in breaking news threads in MPSIMS](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-political-religious-jabs-in-breaking-news-threads-in-mpsims/740558/1): > > Unfortunately, since these types of threads commonly involve hot-button issues, they often fall prey to hijacks and rants about political, religious or other emotionally charged subjects. MPSIMS is not the place for such comments, which detract from the usefulness of breaking-news threads. If you wish to use a current event as a springboard for a commentary about a hot-button issue, please post it in Great Debates or the Pit. You may post a link to your GD or Pit post in MPSIMS, but don’t use that as an excuse to rehash your argument. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > So opinions aren’t allowed, or just political opinions? I understand wanting to avoid a hijack and sniping, but I thought opinion was allowed as long as it was civil. Please review the above rule for guidelines. If you wish further guidance, I would suggest opening a new thread in ATMB. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/39 "2018-10-27T21:56:06Z")
Trump is strongly condemning this horrific act. It’s not surprising. His daughter has converted to Judaism and his grandkids are being raised in the faith. This hits home hard for him and many other Americans. > **[Trump calls Pittsburgh synagogue attack 'evil' anti-Semitism](https://apnews.com/article/elections-in-state-wire-illinois-mike-bost-north-america-5f596ac7b6f845e59460e9e69072da03)** > > MURPHYSBORO, Ill. (AP) — President Donald Trump mourned the dead and forcefully condemned anti-Semitism Saturday after a mass shooting at a Pittsburgh synagogue that left 11 dead. > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump on Saturday condemned the “wicked act of mass murder” at a Pittsburgh synagogue, saying anti-Semitism “must be confronted anywhere and everywhere it appears” and speculating that the death toll would have been curbed if an armed guard had been in the building. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591/40 "2018-10-27T23:05:52Z")
[A pit thread for those who want to spit about it.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=864585) Death toll to 11 now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-shooting-at-synagogue-in-pittsburgh/823591.md?page=3)