# BREAKING NEWS thread for Charlie Kirk murder and investigation (10SEP2025) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [September 11, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-thread-for-charlie-kirk-murder-and-investigation-10sep2025/1022964 "2025-09-11T19:21:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-thread-for-charlie-kirk-murder-and-investigation-10sep2025/1022964/1 "2025-09-11T19:21:16Z")
I’m creating this thread for updates into the investigation on Charlie Kirk’s murder, the identification or ongoing investigation into the shooter, and other direct reporting on such. I and several other posters I’m sure want to avoid the seemingly inevitable assumptions of political agenda, justifiability and the like, so in addition to documenting this as Breaking News, I am asking here in the OP to avoid such political jabs and debates. We have several debate, P&E, and Pit threads for all of those. Again, for those who want to have a single source of _news_ or reasonably reputable reporting. I’ll include a CBS summary of what we know as of this morning: > **[Charlie Kirk shooter remains at large. Here's what we know about the search...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/charlie-kirk-shooter-search-investigation-suspect-what-we-know/)** > > Conservative activist Charlie Kirk was shot and killed on Wednesday while speaking an event at Utah Valley University. Authorities have not identified a suspect. A couple of key points from above, at least one I hadn’t seen mentioned in the other threads: > Utah Public Safety Commissioner Beau Mason said the suspect was a male who “blended in” with the college community and appears to be "college-age. > FBI special-agent-in-charge Robert Bohls said Thursday that investigators recovered a “high-powered, bolt-action rifle,” which they believe was the weapon used in the assassination. It was found in a wooded area where the shooter fled and will be analyzed by the FBI, according to Bohls. The article also has imagery of the supposed shooter and indicates they have substantial video of the suspect, as well as impressions of the shoe treads, palm and forearm impressions from the shooter. Again, No Political Jabs or political speculation until we have reportable news. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-thread-for-charlie-kirk-murder-and-investigation-10sep2025/1022964/2 "2025-09-11T19:41:23Z")
Does anyone have a blowup of that flag/gun or whatever on the possible suspect’s chest? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-thread-for-charlie-kirk-murder-and-investigation-10sep2025/1022964/3 "2025-09-11T19:45:04Z")
It’s probably this. > **[Pardon Our Interruption...](https://www.ebay.com/splashui/challenge?ap=1&appName=orch&ru=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F205357163766&iid=6d917754-e0b3-4ea7-b08a-2fa470d0908c&iim=fMTg0Lju&iia=lKEwNS45ww&iiz=kzKOS4xMDA*XMz)** ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-thread-for-charlie-kirk-murder-and-investigation-10sep2025/1022964/4 "2025-09-11T19:45:41Z")
There’s an image in this post: > [@Trump ally and conservative pundit Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event \[now reported deceased, same date 10SEP2025\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-ally-and-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-event-now-reported-deceased-same-date-10sep2025/1022916/445): > > On another site someone posted a picture of what looks to be the same kind of t-shirt for sale. [[image] ](https://i.imgur.com/j2coaKK.png) ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-thread-for-charlie-kirk-murder-and-investigation-10sep2025/1022964/5 "2025-09-12T20:32:21Z")
Many will have seen this elsewhere, or in one of the many Political / Pit threads, but just in case for those dialing down on the news: > **[Tyler Robinson: What we know about Kirk shooting suspect | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/12/us/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect-invs)** > > Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old in custody as the suspect in the fatal shooting of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, had recently become more politically active, family members said. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-thread-for-charlie-kirk-murder-and-investigation-10sep2025/1022964/6 "2025-09-12T21:12:34Z")
In the video I saw of the minutes before the shot, it seemed that Kirk, or the person asking him questions, asserted that 5 mass shooters have been transexual. That’s not factual. [PolitiFact | Are trans people ‘statistically’ more prone to commit gun violence? Data shows a different picture](https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/sep/09/trans-people-mass-shootings-gun-violence/) ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-thread-for-charlie-kirk-murder-and-investigation-10sep2025/1022964/7 "2025-09-12T21:59:19Z")
> **[Man arrested in Charlie Kirk's killing had no known criminal history, had...](https://apnews.com/article/charlie-kirk-shooting-tyler-robinson-suspect-d893cc16fb0937d507283c710c551ef0)** > > Family members of the young Utah man accused of shooting Charlie Kirk told authorities he had recently become more political and believed Kirk was spreading hate. _His listed address in the probable cause statement is the six-bedroom home of his parents, who own a granite countertop business and are registered to vote as Republicans._ -snip- _Cox said ammunition found at the scene had engravings that reference meme culture and referred to fascism._ So (according to this article and others), the suspect is a young male resident of Utah with an average suburban upbringing, not registered with either political party, with no criminal history, from a family of Republicans, who apparently fell off the wagon and somehow became an anti-fascist, and didn’t like what Kirk said. It will be interesting to see if anything more comes out about motive. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-thread-for-charlie-kirk-murder-and-investigation-10sep2025/1022964/8 "2025-09-12T22:18:54Z")
A bit of Google-fu had this as the first link. They appear to be a legitimate charity; I may send them a small donation. > **[Tyler Robinson Foundation - Founded by Imagine Dragons to Fight Childhood Cancer](https://www.trf.org/)** > > The Tyler Robinson Foundation, founded by Imagine Dragons, supports families fighting childhood cancer. Donate, volunteer, and learn more about our mission. Someone on another site said that his mother had, in recent years, bragged about his gun proficiency on social media. Yet another example of “Nothing on the Internet ever goes away” if that’s true, just like all the RWNJers blaming this on the “left.” ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-thread-for-charlie-kirk-murder-and-investigation-10sep2025/1022964/9 "2025-09-12T22:24:00Z")
I still would caution about calling him anti-fascist. Mainly for three reasons: One, he could still be a groyper instead which would put him well on the far right. Two, the term fascist has been pretty well diluted by overuse by both sides, especially on the internet, to be a general attack aimed at anyone the speaker doesn’t like. And three, the only clear fascist reference is also a Helldivers II reference, and everything else the guy wrote is basically shitposting. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-thread-for-charlie-kirk-murder-and-investigation-10sep2025/1022964/10 "2025-09-12T22:30:11Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > I still would caution about calling him anti-fascist. Mainly for three reasons: One, he could still be a groyper instead which would put him well on the far right. We can judge the likelihood of this being true by the degree to which right-wing voices have transitioned from ‘_we are now at war with the Libruls_’ to ‘_this is a case of mental illness_.’ > The killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk has reignited attention on a long-simmering feud within elements of the far right, particularly between Kirk and the so-called “Groyper” movement led by white nationalist Nick Fuentes. > **[What is a 'groyper? What to know about Nick Fuentes' alt-right movement](https://www.newsweek.com/groyper-charlie-kirk-shooting-nick-fuentes-2129114)** > > Fuentes' band of extremist followers take their name from the underbelly of internet meme culture. I realize this is the breaking-news thread, but news about the shooter’s views IS breaking fast (even if some of it is speculation). ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-thread-for-charlie-kirk-murder-and-investigation-10sep2025/1022964/11 "2025-09-14T11:47:27Z")
Here’s an article in Reuters about what we know about the killer to date (not much). **Accused sniper jailed in Charlie Kirk killing awaits formal charges in Utah** [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/accused-sniper-jailed-charlie-kirk-killing-awaits-formal-charges-utah-2025-09-13/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/accused-sniper-jailed-charlie-kirk-killing-awaits-formal-charges-utah-2025-09-13/) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/breaking-news-thread-for-charlie-kirk-murder-and-investigation-10sep2025/1022964/12 "2025-09-14T16:45:20Z")
> [@snowthx's article](#): > > Cox said ammunition found at the scene had engravings that reference meme culture and referred to fascism. That’s a pretty useless statement. Anything that gets referenced is by definition part of “meme culture”, and “referring to fascism” could go either way.